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Old 07-17-2008, 11:34 AM
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I expected this, but I think the gt3rs will still get the gt1, at least in europe for hommogulation purposes.
This is great news for resale of current tt/gt3/gt2 cars.
Old 07-17-2008, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
I expected this, but I think the gt3rs will still get the gt1, at least in europe for hommogulation purposes.
That's what I think too. RS and GT3 will be much more differentiated than the last version...
Old 07-17-2008, 12:22 PM
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Im confused. Why is this new good news for me, a current 997 GT3 owner?

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Old 07-17-2008, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
That's what I think too. RS and GT3 will be much more differentiated than the last version...

Not according to our German readers

http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php...gonew=1#UNREAD
Old 07-17-2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by eclou
Not according to our German readers

http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php...gonew=1#UNREAD
If true, this means one of two things to me:

1. There will be a rumored Street-version of a GT3 RSR with GT1 block for homologation purposes.

OR

2. The next generation racecars will use the new motor too.

One other note: If the new GT3/RS has a 3.8L motor with DFI with 430hp, that is a very disappointing figure (+15hp) for adding 200cc and DFI.

Makes me wonder if they're going to have a redline more like the 997S (7,500rpm) rather than current GT3 (8,400rpm)...
Old 07-17-2008, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
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2. The next generation racecars will use the new motor too.
Bingo
Old 07-17-2008, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 993S
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It that your guess or are you sure? Thanks!
Old 07-17-2008, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by flash1034
Im confused. Why is this new good news for me, a current 997 GT3 owner?

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It's not but some like to believe so. They believe the new engine is a "carrera" (read inferior) engine.
But it is not. It's the start of a whole new engine generation much stronger, lighter than whatever has been build before by Porsche.
When the new engine will go racing and proofs its reliability it will become clear to all.

On the other hand , if you are planning to keep your GT3 as a collectors piece it's a different matter.. (in the long run as being the last of an era).
A GT3 997/1 will for sure become a car that is "collectable", hence keep good value.

But in the short term when the GT3 997/2 will be released it will hurt value which is normal.
Old 07-17-2008, 01:06 PM
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As long as Porsche gives the new motor dry sump and internals along the same lines as GT1 based motor, there is no issue. They (Porsche) will figure out a way to make it work. A block is just that; a big block of metal. New motor will be superior.
Old 07-17-2008, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
If true, this means one of two things to me:

1. There will be a rumored Street-version of a GT3 RSR with GT1 block for homologation purposes.

OR

2. The next generation racecars will use the new motor too.

One other note: If the new GT3/RS has a 3.8L motor with DFI with 430hp, that is a very disappointing figure (+15hp) for adding 200cc and DFI.

Makes me wonder if they're going to have a redline more like the 997S (7,500rpm) rather than current GT3 (8,400rpm)...
Maybe this strange looking creature is the street RSR: http://www.autoblog.com/category/spyphotos/.

[note: you have to scroll down to find it]
Old 07-17-2008, 01:51 PM
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How is it official if it's not on Porsche's website or in a Porsche press release???

Just more speculation...
Old 07-17-2008, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by am722
Maybe this strange looking creature is the street RSR: http://www.autoblog.com/category/spyphotos/.

[note: you have to scroll down to find it]
I think brakes are too small for an RSR (or even GT3)
Old 07-17-2008, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe S.
How is it official if it's not on Porsche's website or in a Porsche press release???

Just more speculation...
Exactly. Same rumors were flying about the 2007 GT3 prior to release.

To me it seems more likely that the few mk II 997GT3s will retain the current drivetrain and only differ cosmetically (with gov't mandated PSM), followed by an engine based on the new family for the 991 cars. I just don't think they've had much time to develop a competition motor off the new block, and I doubt the Cup cars will no longer have similar powerplants to the street cars.
Old 07-17-2008, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by db_gt3
As long as Porsche gives the new motor dry sump and internals along the same lines as GT1 based motor, there is no issue. They (Porsche) will figure out a way to make it work. A block is just that; a big block of metal. New motor will be superior.
Yeah, but I wouldn't buy one until a race version of the same motor has won at Le Mans (class of course). The point of the GT3 is to buy a street version of Porsche's racecars. The street version might come first due to homologation, but I'd wait until it's race proven and has the bugs worked out.
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
Doesn't the current GT3 have PSM, I thought the last GT3 that doesn't have drivers aids was the 996 GT3 mkII
no, 997gt3 has TC and PASM, both entirely different than PSM.


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