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Old 08-22-2007, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by YYC930
I am.....and my dealer is not marking it up. I expect a $100K hit in 24 months......
Then I'll buy it from you 2 years from now.
Old 08-22-2007, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NelsonF
100k in 24 months? Jeez, any better options for my $200k?
Lease?

I have not taken out a note over 50K since, like ever.

I prefer to have that $$ work for me...
Old 08-22-2007, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by YYC930
I am.....and my dealer is not marking it up. I expect a $100K hit in 24 months......
LOL, another expert. 100 K in two years ? Please line up some 996GT2's for 70-80 K.......
Old 08-22-2007, 09:36 AM
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Total 911 Mag has a letter from the editor speculating 40K GBP over list when the 997GT2 comes out. Its all speculation...
Old 08-22-2007, 04:30 PM
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CAD $$.......I expect a $250-270K MSRP up here.......and by the time I am finished with my options......well......you get the idea.

Read before you speak and you'd see where I was from......it helps. US MSRP is $192K.......even your US figures are not correct.
Old 08-22-2007, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Polar Peter
My brother and I are recieivng the only two allocations which my dealer will get....


Peter, do you ever drive the GT3-RS to work? I've never seen one in person and would love to!
Im a friend of Ron C.
Old 08-23-2007, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedGeek
With traction control and stability control, at least this version won't tear your head off if you look at it the wrong way. I think that will ensure it's more popular than its forebear, although hard-core purists may not be impressed.
I think the reasons you listed will make it less popular than the previous model... think about it: How many 500+bhp cars can you get with traction control and stability control and every other electronic gizmo known to man? The answer is, a LOT - Almost the entire Mercedes AMG line, M5, M6, all the Ferrari GT cars, all the Lambos, etc.

500bhp+ cars are a dime a dozen. A pure-bred GT2 driver's car that can bite you in the *** unless you respect it, and reward you if you get it right? Now THAT would occupy a special place in the market.
Old 08-23-2007, 03:24 PM
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Not quite sure about the new GT2. I think it's better buy used.
Old 08-23-2007, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pcar964
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500bhp+ cars are a dime a dozen. A pure-bred GT2 driver's car that can bite you in the *** unless you respect it, and reward you if you get it right? Now THAT would occupy a special place in the market.

And the cemetery.
Old 08-23-2007, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pcar964
I think the reasons you listed will make it less popular than the previous model... think about it: How many 500+bhp cars can you get with traction control and stability control and every other electronic gizmo known to man? The answer is, a LOT - Almost the entire Mercedes AMG line, M5, M6, all the Ferrari GT cars, all the Lambos, etc.

500bhp+ cars are a dime a dozen. A pure-bred GT2 driver's car that can bite you in the *** unless you respect it, and reward you if you get it right? Now THAT would occupy a special place in the market.
I agree that the 997 will be less popular amongst purists. But the electronic nannies will draw in a lot of people who were simply too afraid of the 996 version. I think the latter will supercede the former.

Also, the GT2 remains somewhat unique even with safety nets. It's a rear-drive, hard-core sports car with an insane torque-to-weight ratio, and yet it can still double as a perfectly reasonable and reliable daily driver. None of the cars you mention above quite fit that bill.
Old 08-23-2007, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedGeek
I agree that the 997 will be less popular amongst purists. But the electronic nannies will draw in a lot of people who were simply too afraid of the 996 version. I think the latter will supercede the former.

Also, the GT2 remains somewhat unique even with safety nets. It's a rear-drive, hard-core sports car with an insane torque-to-weight ratio, and yet it can still double as a perfectly reasonable and reliable daily driver. None of the cars you mention above quite fit that bill.
I ordered mine!
Old 08-24-2007, 01:04 PM
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Well I guess I don't see the point then... why not just buy a TT if you want a fast car that will save you from yourself?
Old 08-24-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pcar964
Well I guess I don't see the point then... why not just buy a TT if you want a fast car that will save you from yourself?
Because the TT is boring anytime you're not at WOT. It's quiet and soft and awd. Highly capable but lacking soul.

The GT2 is much more a turbo'd GT3 than it is a rwd TT. The 997 version should be every bit as raw and exciting as the 996 except when pushing ten tenths.

Of course there's a good argument to be made that the GT2 should remain the wild beast it was originally designed to be. But let's face it, the 996 version is really dangerous and has a very small market. And they've held their value about as well as a net holds water.

Actually, I think the problem is that Porsches are Porsches, not Ferraris. Depending on your point of view, Porsches may be every bit as good, or better, than Ferraris, but they simply do not have the cachet of the Cavallino Rampante. So very expensive production Porsches will always struggle to hold their value in the used market.
Old 08-24-2007, 02:01 PM
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Maybe I'm asking too much, but I think the GT2 needs better Marketing. It's an awesome machine, but doesn't stand out enough from the rest of the product line cosmetically. The RS is unique and worth the price. The GT2 should make your jaw drop just looking at it. It doesn't do that for me at all.
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Originally Posted by dertub
Maybe I'm asking too much, but I think the GT2 needs better Marketing. It's an awesome machine, but doesn't stand out enough from the rest of the product line cosmetically. The RS is unique and worth the price. The GT2 should make your jaw drop just looking at it. It doesn't do that for me at all.

Firstly, I think the video on PCNA's website is silly

Secondly, it looks like an RS with a very striking diffuser to me

Thirdly, and here's the closer for me, RS chassis with big V-8 style TQ! Talk about sit down, shut up and hold on!!!



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