MJones

Anybody notice that HT is more tricky with PCCB?

At least for me, their innitial bite has made the process a more difficult process, like I've got to learn how to all over.

Anyone experience increased difficulty doing HT ??

frayed

To me, the biggest drawback of pccbs.

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...light=heel+toe

https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...8&postcount=16

While in those threads I appreciated all the comments, I'd like to hear from people who actually have made the migration to heel toe in a 997 pccb equiped car. It's a whole different beast.

As already stated, I even had an experienced instructor and pro racer drive my 997S with PCCBs, and he hated the brakes for this reason. Until then I thought it was 'just me.'

MJones

At PDE, after a lap or two in an 'S' with 350mm PCCB no problem

In the GT3 with the 380mm PCCB it's like I've forgotton everything I use to know...
So very sensitive to pedal pressure inputs...Yikes were slowing down NOW!

frayed

MJones, have you tried and extended pedal and/or lifter plate?

http://rennline.com/product.php/sid/...che/prodid/115

I was going to try an aftermarket pedal, and maybe shim it higher to see if that helps. Getting it closer to the brake pedal in height should help.

BobbyC

No problems here, but that's because I learned H/T on PCCBs. I also replaced the brake pedal with a larger alum pedal AND layered an alum pedal on top of the existing gas pedal. This decreases the height diff between the two and helps H/T. Practice will take care of the rest...cheers!

frayed

Awesome! That's what I was thinking actually. Keep the existing brake pedal height and raise the gas a bit. Which pedals did you use?

BobbyC

Carnewal and Ruf sell identical alum pedal sets...the ones with the black rubber dots on them. Carnewal is cheaper.

JWGT2

HT def more difficult. Brake pedal w/ stainless surround too slippery for me. I have rennline peds on Cayman and will be ordering another set for gt3.

Height of gas pedal too far for me too, so will need to get lifter from Rennline,.

mooty

yes, for me, PCCB is harder to HT. but i have less than 100 miles on PCCB cars and was on street.
when i put enough pressure on brake pedal so i can HT normally, i got too much brake already.

nkhalidi

No problem for me. I can heel/toe equally badly on PCCBs (997S) or steel brakes (every other manual-shift car I drive).

But no seriously, it's just a learning curve issue. I press the brake with my big toe while tilting my foot so my little toes dab the gas. Heel/toe is a nonissue on the track for me.

On a related note, I didn't know that 997S PCCBs are a full 35mm smaller than 997GT3 PCCBs, as MJones wrote.

GT3MK1

I haven't try the gen 2 PCCB, but the 1st gen need quite long time to heat up till working temp.

What about the new one?

frayed

I have no experience with Gen 1, but Gen 2 needs no heat to work. They'll pull your eyeballs from your sockets cold, first application on the street.

The only time they are funky is during a deluge. . . heavy rains can give a pucker moment when you get on them the first time after driving for a while in heavy rain with no brake application (eg., heavy rains, highway driving, hit brakes for first time after 5 minutes of driving).

Yup. Don't go crazy with your pccb envy.

Mussl Kar

I sucked at HT and I thought it was because of a lot of ankle injuries in the past. One track day with proper driving shoes changed all of that(Sabelt) I have noticed that driving on the street is very diferent(I have PCCBs) because you seldom brake that hard, don't want a Prius up your butt?

doc2s

here are some pics of the extention plate and pedal cover from my previous 997s.
in the second pic i pressed on the brake pedal with my finger (light pressure) to show how the pedals align.

MJSpeed

Can't the pedals be adjusted like in the 993, 964 and so on??