OT: 2008 BMW M3 Concept at Geneva
03-06-2007, 09:52 PM
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OT: 2008 BMW M3 Concept at Geneva
The front looks busy but I like the rest.
Nice roof.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49988
Nice roof.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49988
03-06-2007, 10:14 PM
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nice, but i rather have GT3.
03-06-2007, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mooty
nice, but i rather have GT3.
03-06-2007, 11:37 PM
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Sure, but the M3 is half the price. I guess a used 2004 GT3 isn't much more though...
Grant, I've said it before but your car is really, really cool.
03-07-2007, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Sure, but the M3 is half the price. I guess a used 2004 GT3 isn't much more though...
03-07-2007, 12:55 AM
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You know; every time I see the 997 chassis, I can't convince myself to buy a 996 even if it is a GT3. I don't mean to start flame-war over that... the 996 just doesn't have that Carrera look I so desire.
For this latest M3, I wonder if BMW can still maintains the near 50/50 weight distribution with this new V8... Carbon fiber roof is for-sure to be available and let's see the 7-speed tranny, manual and SMG are top notch.
For this latest M3, I wonder if BMW can still maintains the near 50/50 weight distribution with this new V8... Carbon fiber roof is for-sure to be available and let's see the 7-speed tranny, manual and SMG are top notch.
03-07-2007, 12:59 AM
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well, look is a personal thing.
but 996gt3 is one hell of a great car for 70-80k.
but 996gt3 is one hell of a great car for 70-80k.
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03-07-2007, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Grant, I've said it before but your car is really, really cool.
03-07-2007, 02:05 AM
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You know, having owned three M3's, two E36's and one E46, the car has a special place in my heart.
That being said, BMW has completely abandoned what M stood for, it aint Motorsport no more.
The E46 M3 was nice, moderately fast, nice SMG tranny, nice pre bangled interior with driver oriented cockpit, classic graceful look.
But, it was over weight at 3400 pounds, the brakes sucked and get destroyed after 4 track days along with purpled and blued rotors.
The E92 M3 you are looking at 3500 something with still single piston Scheiße for brakes.
BMW's stubborness in fitting brakes that's worth a damn and cars that weight 3500 pounds means the new one is doomed for a life of street existence only.
A far cry from the E30 days.
Shame, really.
And after driving my GT2 at Sears Point this past weekend, there simply was no comparison. Heavy cars suck. Heavy cars with Scheiße for brakes suck even more.
That being said, BMW has completely abandoned what M stood for, it aint Motorsport no more.
The E46 M3 was nice, moderately fast, nice SMG tranny, nice pre bangled interior with driver oriented cockpit, classic graceful look.
But, it was over weight at 3400 pounds, the brakes sucked and get destroyed after 4 track days along with purpled and blued rotors.
The E92 M3 you are looking at 3500 something with still single piston Scheiße for brakes.
BMW's stubborness in fitting brakes that's worth a damn and cars that weight 3500 pounds means the new one is doomed for a life of street existence only.
A far cry from the E30 days.
Shame, really.
And after driving my GT2 at Sears Point this past weekend, there simply was no comparison. Heavy cars suck. Heavy cars with Scheiße for brakes suck even more.
03-07-2007, 02:11 AM
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I agree... I own M3E30 to M3E46
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You know, having owned three M3's, two E36's and one E46, the car has...
03-07-2007, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ///Mous3
I do hope there will be a CSL-Type car coming to the US. I hope they are looking at how well RS is doing at the market. Just keep it under $100K...
03-07-2007, 10:10 AM
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If they ever do come out with a CSL/LTW version it will be badass. The E9x chassis is a big steup up from the E46 chassis, which is a stronger, tweaked version of the E36 chassis. 3500lbs. . . wet, in the real world, I think we'll see weights quite a bit more than 3500lbs.
03-07-2007, 10:52 AM
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If they ever do come out with a CSL/LTW version it will be badass. The E9x chassis is a big steup up from the E46 chassis, which is a stronger, tweaked version of the E36 chassis. 3500lbs. . . wet, in the real world, I think we'll see weights quite a bit more than 3500lbs.
03-07-2007, 11:12 AM
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The pigs...
Originally Posted by MrBonus
It genuinely bothers me that you have to hunt for a performance oriented car under 3500 pounds these days. Hell, it still bothers me that my car most likely weighs between 3200 - 3350 pounds.
I totally agrees with the weight of the cars keep increasing. And that perhaps give more reason for niche market now dominated by Lotus. At US$60K for a lotus, the lightweight M3 at $90K doesn't sound too bad to me.
03-07-2007, 11:15 AM
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Were you the one?
Originally Posted by frayed
If they ever do come out with a CSL/LTW version it will be badass. The E9x chassis is a big steup up from the E46 chassis, which is a stronger, tweaked version of the E36 chassis...