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Old 10-17-2017, 10:42 AM
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Do these electric pumps make a lot of noise? Can you hear it while driving on street?
Looks very tidy mounted beside the battery!
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It's a good way to reduce parasitic power loss on your engine belt... how are you powering this pump though? In the cup this pump drew so much current that I think it has its own fuse...
Old 10-17-2017, 03:05 PM
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Perfect timing... I'm doing this mod as well. I've got the pump as well as the Rebel fittings for the PS rack.

I've been trying to come up with a good mounting solution myself. Interested in seeing how yours goes
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Originally Posted by CRex
It's a good way to reduce parasitic power loss on your engine belt... how are you powering this pump though? In the cup this pump drew so much current that I think it has its own fuse...
It has an inline 80amp fuse so you wire it directly to the battery.
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Originally Posted by JarmoL
Do these electric pumps make a lot of noise? Can you hear it while driving on street?
Looks very tidy mounted beside the battery!
it sounds like a jet engine
Old 10-17-2017, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JarmoL
Do these electric pumps make a lot of noise? Can you hear it while driving on street?
Looks very tidy mounted beside the battery!
Old 10-18-2017, 01:22 AM
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Thanks! That is some noise then..
Old 10-18-2017, 03:53 PM
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Good info, thanks! Makes me think about future mods.

​​​How about belt length and rollers required after PS pump removal?
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Originally Posted by T10Chris
Perfect timing... I'm doing this mod as well. I've got the pump as well as the Rebel fittings for the PS rack.

I've been trying to come up with a good mounting solution myself. Interested in seeing how yours goes
Since you also have a 996 and close by, here's my custom Rothsport mount for the electric PS. I'm sure they could make more if you convince Jeff.

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OP,

Nice job on the modeling of the bracket.

Just for reference, I got a set of the Rebel brand aluminum fittings on ebay, the measurements are spot on. Pretty legit for under 100 bucks!




Low pressure fitting.



High pressure fitting.



The only functional difference is on the high pressure fitting the OEM/Cup version has a built in screen. The screen won't change the performance. Should the pump fails and break into pieces the screen will protect the rack to some degree but its pretty unlikely that'll happen so I don't having the screen is critical. One could install an inline filter if so desires, but again I don't think its necessary. If I had to do my car again I wouldn't hesitate to use these fittings. I would get new OEM sealing rings though.

I am sure the HRG brand measures equally well given their reputation.
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Other pertinent part numbers in relation if your pump didn't come complete:

997.314.090.9A - Cap and overflow tube. (#16)
996.314.759.9B - Rubber Disk. (#4)

999.703.269.01 - Silent Block 25x15/M 6 (#3)

999.073.259.09 - Screw m6x8. (#2)


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Originally Posted by Tom-TPC Racing
OP,

Nice job on the modeling of the bracket.

Just for reference, I got a set of the Rebel Racing brand aluminum fittings on ebay, the measurements are spot on. Totally legit for under 100 bucks!


The only functional difference is on the high pressure fitting the OEM/Cup version has a built in screen. The screen won't change the performance. Should the pump fails and break into pieces the screen will protect the rack to some degree but its pretty unlikely that'll happen so I don't having the screen is critical. One could install an inline filter if so desires, but again I don't think its necessary. If I had to do my car again I wouldn't hesitate to use these fittings. I would get new OEM sealing rings though.

I am sure the HRG brand measures equally well given their reputation.
I've got a set of HRG coming as well, I will take measurements but I'm sure they're fine. I paid $90 to HRG and he included O rings and shipping! I will likely model a set myself and machine it out of 6061.

It's pretty cool we can use these fittings and bypass the Cup lines entirely!

Tom- do you have any thoughts on the Cup idler pulley with a bracket vs just replacing the belt with something smaller?
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Originally Posted by bmwtye
Other pertinent part numbers in relation if your pump didn't come complete:

997.314.090.9A - Cap and overflow tube. (#16)
996.314.759.9B - Rubber Disk. (#4)

999.703.269.01 - Silent Block 25x15/M 6 (#3)

999.073.259.09 - Screw m6x8. (#2)
I don't have the cap with overflow. Necessary? Or is it gonna **** all over my floor?
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Originally Posted by Scawt
Since you also have a 996 and close by, here's my custom Rothsport mount for the electric PS. I'm sure they could make more if you convince Jeff.

so I'm seeing lots of round bases that hold the PS unit. is this really necessary? the 3 posts that hold the PS pump should be enough, no?
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started modeling the fitting based off of -6 fitting and the measurements tom provided. will double check with a caliper and mic once they arrive

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