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Old 02-15-2018, 11:26 AM
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBruce
Hysterical. I was pondering how to respond to this thread and you nailed it.
Old 02-15-2018, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Climarepair.com
Please, try to 3D print them and come back to this tread with some pictures of what you got, then everyone will compare and will see our switches are not 3D printed!

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Do you have an STL file? If you do, send it. I will try printing a set and get back to you with photos.
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For the record: I didn't say they were 3D printed. I said they look 3D printed.
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Originally Posted by cosm3os
For the record: I didn't say they were 3D printed. I said they look 3D printed.
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All,

Batch 3 is sold out. It will be shipping to customers next week.

Batch 4 will be ready in 2-3 weeks as we just put a few more into production along with a Ferrari 575 interior.
As always, if you call us, we will reserve a set for you. We get your info but don't charge you until we ship.
The shop number is +1.650.489.4415

If you guys don't know, every plastic piece of a modern Ferrari (348 on up) will eventually go bad. And not just scrape off like the 997 AC buttons.
They actually turn goopy and sticky like tar. Attached are some pieces we just got in.


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Originally Posted by MAcarbon
All,

Batch 3 is sold out. It will be shipping to customers next week.

Batch 4 will be ready in 2-3 weeks as we just put a few more into production along with a Ferrari 575 interior.
As always, if you call us, we will reserve a set for you. We get your info but don't charge you until we ship.
The shop number is +1.650.489.4415

If you guys don't know, every plastic piece of a modern Ferrari (348 on up) will eventually go bad. And not just scrape off like the 997 AC buttons.
They actually turn goopy and sticky like tar. Attached are some pieces we just got in.


Well, I for one am sure glad I don't have a Ferrari!
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Originally Posted by MAcarbon
All,

Batch 3 is sold out. It will be shipping to customers next week.

Batch 4 will be ready in 2-3 weeks as we just put a few more into production along with a Ferrari 575 interior.
As always, if you call us, we will reserve a set for you. We get your info but don't charge you until we ship.
The shop number is +1.650.489.4415

If you guys don't know, every plastic piece of a modern Ferrari (348 on up) will eventually go bad. And not just scrape off like the 997 AC buttons.
They actually turn goopy and sticky like tar. Attached are some pieces we just got in.



That's nasty in a car that expensive, but then again so are engine out service intervals every few thousand miles. So is it the actual plastic that degrades or a coating on-top of the plastic? Can it be wiped off with rubbing alcohol to leave a solid flat black surface again like many of the softtouch surface coatings or would you be wiping until you wiped away the entire thing?
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Sometimes you can use Goof-Off to get the sticky residue off. But the finish is weak at that point and will scratch off with your nail. So like with the Porsche AC switches, the finish is stripped off and then everything is redone.
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Originally Posted by TheDeckMan
John, ok so ordered V3's and ended up getting V1's? Because judging at the material composition here compared to this printed sample on my desk. This set is printed.





I stand behind the original post.
Hello there.

I really can't tell how you made that art piece, this only proves you are using a similar material (to the eye)

For instance, this is a metal fork:







And this is a plastic fork (yes, plastic):





So two pictures means nothing


The way to difference a V1 against a V2 or V3 is looking at the reverse of the piece:


LEFT (V1) RIGHT (V2).


Left V1 - Right V2


Note V3 has an improved design no both front and rear sides. Piece is reinforced at the back to reduce flexibility.

By the way, did you already install your V3 replacement switches? Are you happy with them so far? That's all I want to know
Best regards, John
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Originally Posted by Climarepair.com
Hello there.
I really can't tell how you made that art piece, this only proves you are using a similar material (to the eye)
So two pictures means nothing
The way to difference a V1 against a V2 or V3 is looking at the reverse of the piece:
LEFT (V1) RIGHT (V2).


Left V1 - Right V2
Note V3 has an improved design no both front and rear sides. Piece is reinforced at the back to reduce flexibility.
By the way, did you already install your V3 replacement switches? Are you happy with them so far? That's all I want to know
Best regards, John
No picture of V3 for a comparison of V1 and V2?
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Climarepair, if not 3D printed how are the V3's produced? I've not seen a production process that yields that type of results.
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Originally Posted by Climarepair.com
Hello there.

I really can't tell how you made that art piece, this only proves you are using a similar material (to the eye)

For instance, this is a metal fork:







And this is a plastic fork (yes, plastic):





So two pictures means nothing


The way to difference a V1 against a V2 or V3 is looking at the reverse of the piece:


LEFT (V1) RIGHT (V2).


Left V1 - Right V2


Note V3 has an improved design no both front and rear sides. Piece is reinforced at the back to reduce flexibility.

By the way, did you already install your V3 replacement switches? Are you happy with them so far? That's all I want to know
Best regards, John


John,

I have not put them in due to them looking more out of place than the slightly worn ones in the car. I will be ordering MA Carbon ones shortly.

Both of those versions posted above are printed. One is using the extruded plastic from perhaps a Makerbot or Ultraprinter ect and the other is laser sintered (SLS), which is higher quality, but still not on par with many other manufacturing methods. The V2/3 is similar to the demo piece on my desk. Which would still fall into additive manufacturing aka 3D printing. Not to be confused with subtractive manufacturing or injection molding.
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Originally Posted by mbatarga
No picture of V3 for a comparison of V1 and V2?
sorry I don't have pictures of the rear side, but this video shows the difference:


Best regards,
John
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Originally Posted by TheDeckMan
John,

I have not put them in due to them looking more out of place than the slightly worn ones in the car. I will be ordering MA Carbon ones shortly.

Both of those versions posted above are printed. One is using the extruded plastic from perhaps a Makerbot or Ultraprinter ect and the other is laser sintered (SLS), which is higher quality, but still not on par with many other manufacturing methods. The V2/3 is similar to the demo piece on my desk. Which would still fall into additive manufacturing aka 3D printing. Not to be confused with subtractive manufacturing or injection molding.

Hello Noah,

While what you say is true, it is also true that 99% of the people out there wont understand the difference between SLS and extruded plastic, because when you talk about 3D printing, everybody thinks about this:




It is always good to talk with someone who understands and it is into this techniques


On the other hand, we are very proud of our V3 buttons, and so are our resellers and customers. Prove of this is that several Porsche dealers are installing our buttons worldwide.
Did you even try to install them to see how they look like? This is a video a customer sent us recently:


As you can see, the finish and fitting is awesome.


Best regards,
John

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