Snake oil or not?? Sprint Booster
09-16-2016, 08:39 PM
#61
"More than a collection of the world’s most refined race-bred technologies, the Porsche 911 is a driving experience. The new Sport Chrono Package Plus option is an all-new integrated system providing simultaneous enhancement for engine, chassis and the optional Tiptronic S transmission. The results are even greater performance and pleasure from your Porsche.
Pressing the “Sport” button on the center console is all that’s required to begin exploiting the new 911’s generous reserves of power and agility in a more immediate manner. In Sport mode, the engine management system’s variable parameters are recalibrated to enhance engine response. A modified throttle map empowers your right foot with more progressive reaction to each tap of the accelerator. In higher gears, a rev-limiter works in tandem to offer additional protection for the engine under acceleration.
On vehicles with Tiptronic S transmission, automatic gearshifts also become faster and more dynamic. Lift off the throttle – even at high revs – and the system immediately shifts down to apply engine braking.
Unwanted upshifts in manual mode are also prevented, even as you approach the engine’s rev limit. The payoff? More secure and predictable handling, particularly in the corners.
While all of this is happening, PASM switches to a more rigid setup with firmer electronic damper settings for precise cornering, improved high-speed stability and tenacious road-holding traction. (Note: PASM, or Porsche Active Suspension Management, is optional on the 911 Carrera and standard on the 911 Carrera S).
Porsche Stability Management is also performance-optimized by raising the thresholds for triggering automatic intervention by the ABS and engine management systems, resulting in a more natural response, but less forgiving to lateral and longitudinal g-forces.
A digital/analog timer mounted on the center dashboard keeps score, measuring time as deftly as the 911 concept transcends it.
To help you gauge your 911’s performance in a more exacting manner, a digital/analog stopwatch tracks time from hours down to hundredths of a second. Driving times can be recorded for any stretch of road, and benchmark times can be defined.
Stopwatch functions are operated using a control stalk mounted to the side of the steering wheel, and data is continuously fed to an on-board computer integrated into the Porsche Communication Management (PCM) system.
A second digital display located on the instrument cluster gives your eyes another option for viewing time information, while the PCM display lets you analyze detailed performance data at your leisure. The system records and displays the time and distance traveled on the current segment, number of segments completed with respective times and the fastest segment. Other useful features include a memory function controlled via the PCM system which can store a range of personal preferences."
Someone posted this from porsche's official website when the 997 was the premier model.
Says SC affects both PSM threshold, and engine maps. However, does not affect power at all.
Interesting. I have SC but haven't retrofitted yet. Maybe I will.
Pressing the “Sport” button on the center console is all that’s required to begin exploiting the new 911’s generous reserves of power and agility in a more immediate manner. In Sport mode, the engine management system’s variable parameters are recalibrated to enhance engine response. A modified throttle map empowers your right foot with more progressive reaction to each tap of the accelerator. In higher gears, a rev-limiter works in tandem to offer additional protection for the engine under acceleration.
On vehicles with Tiptronic S transmission, automatic gearshifts also become faster and more dynamic. Lift off the throttle – even at high revs – and the system immediately shifts down to apply engine braking.
Unwanted upshifts in manual mode are also prevented, even as you approach the engine’s rev limit. The payoff? More secure and predictable handling, particularly in the corners.
While all of this is happening, PASM switches to a more rigid setup with firmer electronic damper settings for precise cornering, improved high-speed stability and tenacious road-holding traction. (Note: PASM, or Porsche Active Suspension Management, is optional on the 911 Carrera and standard on the 911 Carrera S).
Porsche Stability Management is also performance-optimized by raising the thresholds for triggering automatic intervention by the ABS and engine management systems, resulting in a more natural response, but less forgiving to lateral and longitudinal g-forces.
A digital/analog timer mounted on the center dashboard keeps score, measuring time as deftly as the 911 concept transcends it.
To help you gauge your 911’s performance in a more exacting manner, a digital/analog stopwatch tracks time from hours down to hundredths of a second. Driving times can be recorded for any stretch of road, and benchmark times can be defined.
Stopwatch functions are operated using a control stalk mounted to the side of the steering wheel, and data is continuously fed to an on-board computer integrated into the Porsche Communication Management (PCM) system.
A second digital display located on the instrument cluster gives your eyes another option for viewing time information, while the PCM display lets you analyze detailed performance data at your leisure. The system records and displays the time and distance traveled on the current segment, number of segments completed with respective times and the fastest segment. Other useful features include a memory function controlled via the PCM system which can store a range of personal preferences."
Someone posted this from porsche's official website when the 997 was the premier model.
Says SC affects both PSM threshold, and engine maps. However, does not affect power at all.
Interesting. I have SC but haven't retrofitted yet. Maybe I will.
09-16-2016, 09:38 PM
#62
Nordschleife Master
Please provide evidence for this totally nonsensical belief of yours. Post the sources so we can all be enlightened. Thanks
I am reminded of the salesman who in 2006 claimed that Sport added 'about 30 horsepower' It of course does not and I went elsewhere rather than deal with someone blowing smoke out of his a$$.
I am reminded of the salesman who in 2006 claimed that Sport added 'about 30 horsepower' It of course does not and I went elsewhere rather than deal with someone blowing smoke out of his a$$.
And one more thing... If you do not believe what another member states please control your insulting style.
09-17-2016, 01:30 AM
#63
Toyota had a problem with a few floor mats and loads of totally inept drivers. Just as in the Audi situation, THERE WAS NO UNINTENDED ACCELERATION PROBLEM.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-scare-feature
I apologize in advance to the OP for getting off track here, but I hate it when stupid myths are perpetuated.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-scare-feature
I apologize in advance to the OP for getting off track here, but I hate it when stupid myths are perpetuated.
1) faulty floormats - that could allow the gas pedal to become stuck. Toyota recalled 5.2 million vehicles for this issue.
2) sticky accelerator pedals - that could become mechanically stuck.Toyota recalled 2.3 million vehicles for this issue.
This all came to light again in 2014, when the DOJ investigation revealed that Toyota was aware of these defects, but purposely misled the public about the danger. The DOJ, in turn, filed criminal charges against Toyota and issued a record $1.2 billion fine for their mishandling of the defects.
Calling this a "stupid myth" is an affront to all the people who died because a large corporation failed to design a safe accelerator system and then failed to take quick, appropriate action once the defect was discovered.
"Early on, Toyota suggested that driver error was to blame, saying that some people may have hit the gas when they meant to hit the brake. Even after issuing recalls to address problematic floor mats that in some cases pinned down accelerators, the company hid a flawed gas pedal design that it knew did the same thing, according to documents accompanying the agreement."
There are lots of articles on this (if you bother to do a search), but the quote above is from this one:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...572_story.html
09-17-2016, 10:42 AM
#64
I do not have to show proof of anything. What I said comes from someone I know in the Porsche organization and I respect. Besides... anyone with proper driving skills and proper seat-of-the-pants feel knows that the engine response in SC Sport is different from just pushing the throttle farther. And no one claims an HP increase.
And one more thing... If you do not believe what another member states please control your insulting style.
And one more thing... If you do not believe what another member states please control your insulting style.
I have owned my car for 10+ years. Full throttle is unchanged regular or sport. No one who has ever reviewed these cars over the years has ever said 'horsepower is 355 or 380 in sport' or the like. You do see this sort of thing is Turboed cars with overboost but not in na Porsches.
You are of course free to believe in whatever you like but you need to be careful posting misinformation based on unquotable sources
You have correctly pointed out a mistake or two on my part over the years we have shared this space and I have had no problem listening to what you said (in a rather condescending fashion I might add) and correcting myself.
If you would like to continue this I suggest you PM me and we can spare others the drama.
My apologies to my fellow board members for sidetracking this thread.
09-20-2016, 01:26 AM
#66
Rennlist Member
Stumble upon a less expensive alternative to SB called EVC I-Drive, at less than $200 I may be tempted to give it a try....
http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod13...spons-Booster/
It got 3 modes with 18 settings and it gotta have a setting that fits everyone
http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod13...spons-Booster/
It got 3 modes with 18 settings and it gotta have a setting that fits everyone
Last edited by lowbee; 09-20-2016 at 01:42 AM.
09-20-2016, 10:19 AM
#67
I had only 5 mins to look in the foot well area last night. but didnt see where to disconnect / connect this new unit I have. Anyone have a pic on where the part needs to be connected?
09-20-2016, 01:26 PM
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09-21-2016, 12:05 PM
#71
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09-22-2016, 12:37 PM
#73
Update, I stated I was doing this yesterday, however no time!
Car is going to get new plugs, the shift-right solution and tranny mount insert completed today/tomorrow so I will have time when she's done with that projuect Sat
Car is going to get new plugs, the shift-right solution and tranny mount insert completed today/tomorrow so I will have time when she's done with that projuect Sat
09-25-2016, 02:14 PM
#74
Its not snake oil! I must admit its perfect for what ive been looking for. You do not need to accelerate as hard to achieve the same results.
I didnt get much difference in green,so i use red. I also didnt disconnect the cable, thats a pain in the ***. This way i can always make changes if needed. I tucked it behind the radio area.
If you're looking to change the degree to which you apply your foot to the accelerate pedal, this is a must have.
Im happy and its not going to be returned.
Mind you Im a 997.1 no Sport button.
I didnt get much difference in green,so i use red. I also didnt disconnect the cable, thats a pain in the ***. This way i can always make changes if needed. I tucked it behind the radio area.
If you're looking to change the degree to which you apply your foot to the accelerate pedal, this is a must have.
Im happy and its not going to be returned.
Mind you Im a 997.1 no Sport button.
09-25-2016, 02:38 PM
#75
Rennlist Member
Its not snake oil! I must admit its perfect for what ive been looking for. You do not need to accelerate as hard to achieve the same results.
I didnt get much difference in green,so i use red. I also didnt disconnect the cable, thats a pain in the ***. This way i can always make changes if needed. I tucked it behind the radio area.
If you're looking to change the degree to which you apply your foot to the accelerate pedal, this is a must have.
Im happy and its not going to be returned.
Mind you Im a 997.1 no Sport button.
I didnt get much difference in green,so i use red. I also didnt disconnect the cable, thats a pain in the ***. This way i can always make changes if needed. I tucked it behind the radio area.
If you're looking to change the degree to which you apply your foot to the accelerate pedal, this is a must have.
Im happy and its not going to be returned.
Mind you Im a 997.1 no Sport button.