You're going on an on about this 3 month thing like an old man that brags about screwing for 40 years but never brought a woman to orgasm.

This nearly identical car is priced $13k less has been on the market for 124 days it's a 1 owner with no stories. And on the nose directly - after a $14k price drop - still there.




https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=carGurusHomeP ageModel&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&e ntitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c22061&entitySelectingHelper.selecte dEntity2=c22961&zip=90210&distance=50000&searchChanged=true&trimNames=Ca rrera+S+Cabriolet&trimNames=Carrera+4S+AWD+Cabriolet&modelChanged=false& filtersModified=true#listing=202285572

 

Makes sense, mine I bought CPO with a small section of a panel repainted. But my car is mint otherwise with minimal paint flaws. Was just curious since you seem to have quite a bit of experience.

 

Sea Blue interior . . . nuff said. Very difficult sale.

Here again, you are going by pictures and have no clue if there has been repaired damage, respray, or cosmetic issues. You have no idea if it needs a major service, clutch, tires, serpentine belt and etc. Some of this would be due at 6 years regardless of miles.

I could get the skinny on that car if anyone is interested as those guys are friends with my close buddy in Hallendale Beach that owns Emillia Motors.

 

This happens way too often in internet forums - my initial post was in response to Vincent's efforts to sway the 997 market by posting under priced outliers. As a result, Doug posts over priced outliers. Neither the over or under priced cars affect the majority of sales in the middle of the bell curve where most cars are and most buyers and sellers conduct transactions.

Almost all 6-9 year old cars are going to have flaws, some abuse, some stupid mistake done to them by the owner, mechanics, or valets (or all of the above). If you want something near perfect order a new one and never drive it. You'll still have to come here and argue with the all those that say the worst thing to do a Porsche is garage queen it.

A lot can go wrong in 201 miles (sarcasm) - https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=RecentSearche s_false_0&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO& entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d404&entitySelectingHelper.selected Entity2=&zip=90210&distance=50000&searchChanged=true&maxundefined=8000&m odelChanged=false&filtersModified=true#listing=205866778

 

 

It's not being driven? 201 miles on a 2+ year old GT3 RS?

 

Meursalt88 - I'm not trying to sway anything! Did you not read where I said I'm not trying to dictate the market but merely just an observer?? People have different outlook, perspective, opinions and I respect that. We all should, so lets move on.

 

Haha, I had the same thought too. My thought is basically everyone on Rennlist/BringATrailer is not like that in real life. The hypothetical stuff that we talk about on here, and what we do in real life are two different things.

 

I did not post those cars for price analysis.

The GTS was only $75k and it had what I initially thought was a factory aero kit, but I did not look closely. Factory aero kits on 997.2s are rare so I linked it in case someone was looking for one.

I linked the CPO 2012 C2S cab at $72k (almost mid point for the 10 2012 C2S cabs on Cars.com) because it was manual, had low miles, had a desirable color and was a CPO. I could have linked 3 or 4 other 2012 997.2 C2S cabs that were more expensive if price was the focus.

I linked the 2 Targa 4Ss in case someone on here was in the market for a Targa because they are pretty rare. Both were also incredible cars and the manual, cream white, tan with deviating black carpets was perhaps a unicorn type find for someone.

 

One of my closets friends down in Miami is a locator and broker that sells mainly Ferrari, Lambo, Rolls Royce and Bentley, but he does dabble in Porsches. Lol, he said the guys buying Porsches drive him crazy and nit pick everything.

Manheim is all over the place right now. Too much to explain here . . . Most of the NA 997.2s I have seen on Manheim over the past 1 1/2 to 2 years have been trash, utter trash. There are a few decent turbos and a lot of GT3s being offered wholesale, but the NA cars running through auction are pitiful. Decent to good NA 997s will not make it auction. The market is too solid for these unless they are mess or need a lot of $$$ to bring their condition up to sell.

As to cars like Mercedes and etc. . . . Manheim is pretty much the place to find trashed out cars coming off lease. Dealers get first pick of cars coming off lease, keep the good stuff, certify and can typically sell it at the same or lower price CPOed than the trash they pass on that ends up at smaller lots. One of my best friends here purchases for several high end lots here and a large high end lot in Seattle that another one of our friends runs. Sam does nothing but sit in front of 5 or 6 computer monitors at his home and bid on cars all day, six days a week. For the last almost 2 years, the big corporations like Carvana and CarMax have run up auction prices on Mercedes, Audis and BMWs and etc. to the point they are brining dang near retail at auction. They don't care about front-end profit as they make their $$$s of huge volume and back end profit. This is killing the smaller lots and literally made it where Mercedes, Porsche and Audi dealerships owned by corporations such as Sonic can and will sell their low mileage, extra clean CPO cars cheaper than the trashed out auction cars with very little left on the factory warranty sell for at smaller lots. They are getting killed right now and inventory, especially decent inventory, is getting difficult to come by for these smaller, non-nationwide corporate used car lots.

 

One of my best friends here purchases for several high end lots here and a large high end lot in Seattle that another one of our friends runs. Sam does nothing but sit in front of 5 or 6 computer monitors at his home and bid on cars all day, six days a week. For the last almost 2 years, the big corporations like Carvana and CarMax have run up auction prices on Mercedes, Audis and BMWs and etc. to the point they are brining dang near retail at auction. They don't care about front-end profit as they make their $$$s of huge volume and back end profit. This is killing the smaller lots and literally made it where Mercedes, Porsche and Audi dealerships owned by corporations such as Sonic can and will sell their low mileage, extra clean CPO cars cheaper than the trashed out auction cars with very little left on the factory warranty sell for at smaller lots. They are getting killed right now and inventory, especially decent inventory, is getting difficult to come by for these smaller, non-nationwide corporate used car lots.[/QUOTE]

That's a solid bit of intel - thank you.

 

http://www.universityaudilynnwood.co...AB2A9XAS721083

Anyone in the area/Seattle area seen this car?

 

This one deserves a look:

2010 S cab w/ MT, 2 owners, 68k miles for $39k. Of course the accident is pushing the price down but otherwise...

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=213019375