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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 11:52 AM
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Has anyone replaced their 997.1 engine? I prefer the body style of my 05 997.1 C2S and heard that replacement engines are no longer available. Although many would say that acquiring a new car would be more cost efficient, I'm wondering what engine options would be available (could a more contemporary engine be installed?).
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 12:10 PM
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There are a few shops that rebuild and boost HP and performance of failed engines. I almost did this with Jake Raby when my 2000 Boxster S blew... for around the same cost as a Porsche replacement engine (at that time) Raby boosted HP from 250 to about 300 and he strengthened and upgraded many failure modes. I didn't do it because the chassis had 197K miles on it and I found a killer deal on an '09 C2S.

If my Boxster had say 1/2 those miles, I would have done it as I maintained the car fanatically and the interior still looked great. Raby had a long lead time due to so many engines blowing.... so that was a factor also.

Good luck, there are many interesting options and the lure of more HP in a "new" rebuilt engine was very appealing to me.

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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 08:03 PM
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Because my '06 C2S, which sees a lot of track days, had 112k miles on it, and I figured I was living on borrowed time and should get the engine rebuilt. Found a shop to do it - they're no longer available from Germany - but they wanted 20k and no guarantee. So I traded in for an 07 GT3. Laid out a lot more $'s but didn't want to throw the dice on 20 grand.
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 09:16 PM
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Thanks guys.

As much as I would love to keep the car, I'll probably migrate to a 4S if I'm at the crossroads.
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce In Philly
There are a few shops that rebuild and boost HP and performance of failed engines. I almost did this with Jake Raby when my 2000 Boxster S blew... for around the same cost as a Porsche replacement engine (at that time) Raby boosted HP from 250 to about 300 and he strengthened and upgraded many failure modes. I didn't do it because the chassis had 197K miles on it and I found a killer deal on an '09 C2S. If my Boxster had say 1/2 those miles, I would have done it as I maintained the car fanatically and the interior still looked great. Raby had a long lead time due to so many engines blowing.... so that was a factor also. Good luck, there are many interesting options and the lure of more HP in a "new" rebuilt engine was very appealing to me. Peace Bruce in Philly
Speaking of Jake Raby builds, does anyone know what the ballpark cost of the 4.0 997.1 rebuild is? I'm guessing that's in the $20+k range?
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Deansdream
Because my '06 C2S, which sees a lot of track days, had 112k miles on it, and I figured I was living on borrowed time and should get the engine rebuilt. Found a shop to do it - they're no longer available from Germany - but they wanted 20k and no guarantee. So I traded in for an 07 GT3. Laid out a lot more $'s but didn't want to throw the dice on 20 grand.

It's still holding up at 120k miles and the shop says it's running strong.
Although I have given some thought to getting it rebuilt this winter.

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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Slamuth
Speaking of Jake Raby builds, does anyone know what the ballpark cost of the 4.0 997.1 rebuild is? I'm guessing that's in the $20+k range?
Best to contact him directly, but I believe your estimate is pretty close. They offer different packages, so the end price depends on which one you choose, and what condition your current engine is in.

They give a discount on their reconstructions if you bring them a car with a perfectly running engine to work on.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by texas_maverick
Thanks guys.

As much as I would love to keep the car, I'll probably migrate to a 4S if I'm at the crossroads.
What prompts you to believe the engine is in need of a rebuild?

Is oil consumption high with smoking at times other than engine start?

Misfiring?

What?

While it is not guaranteed of course an engine with reasonable servicing and usage can run just fine for hundreds of thousands of miles.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Slamuth
Speaking of Jake Raby builds, does anyone know what the ballpark cost of the 4.0 997.1 rebuild is? I'm guessing that's in the $20+k range?
Thats a Stage II engine, when built from a 3.6 or 3.8 foundation. Thats a 24,00.00 price tag, all inclusive, with install and dyno/ etc. Shipping costs are the only variable.
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Originally Posted by Macster
What prompts you to believe the engine is in need of a rebuild?

Is oil consumption high with smoking at times other than engine start?

Misfiring?

What?

While it is not guaranteed of course an engine with reasonable servicing and usage can run just fine for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Nothing in particular but just inquiring for the future.
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You should check out this thread, if you are at all interested in a rebuild....

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...s-owner-3.html

I have never heard of an unhappy Flat6 customer.
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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 01:56 AM
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I have never heard of an unhappy Flat6 customer.
If you only knew what it takes to earn that statement.... We kill ourselves to maintain the reputation that has taken over 20 years to achieve. We are only as good as our next job's results.

Considering that at least 10% of people are impossible to please, it also takes good luck, and the right purchasers to get to this point. It also means that I have to turn down lots of work, when I see red flags go up early on. Turned one away this week, as a matter of fact.

We do what we say we'll do, we maintain projected prices, we communicate, and we support what we build. People appreciate that.
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There was a story in Christophorus awhile back about a 356 owner coming up on 1,000,000 miles. The car is his daily driver and he intentionally rebuilds the engine every 300,000 miles. His father bought the car in 1964 and the son (and current owner) took it over in 1968. It has been on the road constantly for the last fifty years. I can't imagine that the Porsches built since then are not able to match those statistics.

The hard thing to imagine is a parts source in 2056 for an 2006 Carrera S. With such a foggy future for the internal combustion engine perhaps the best thing to do is just keep driving it until it dies or they take away your license.
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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by johnireland
perhaps the best thing to do is just keep driving it until it dies or they take away your license.
This is a point that I can fully support!

Drive, maintain, drive, fix, and drive some more! And then repeat.
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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by halo777
You should check out this thread, if you are at all interested in a rebuild....

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...s-owner-3.html

I have never heard of an unhappy Flat6 customer.
Awesome! Thanks for the info.
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