Drove a brand new 991S and 997GTS
06-07-2012, 08:39 PM
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06-08-2012, 12:55 AM
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997's Rule! It's the best representation of the modern day 911. The 991... Remember the controversial 996... Porsche enthusiasts were disappointed in that design. Don't you guys think the rear of the 991 resembles an Aston Martin???
06-08-2012, 02:40 AM
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06-08-2012, 10:41 AM
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In moving further away from the essence of the 911, porsche is taking a calculated gamble. I understand that porsche feels they need to broaden their appeal, but in doing so, they open up the door for previous loyal buyers to comparethe 991 to other models. The 991 might be a heck of a machine, but the new viper, new 6 series, and new corvette are going to be killer machines too. Previously we could say that the 911 was a totally different kind of machine. Can we still?
06-08-2012, 12:11 PM
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In moving further away from the essence of the 911, porsche is taking a calculated gamble. I understand that porsche feels they need to broaden their appeal, but in doing so, they open up the door for previous loyal buyers to compare the 991 to other models. The 991 might be a heck of a machine, but the new viper, new 6 series, and new corvette are going to be killer machines too. Previously we could say that the 911 was a totally different kind of machine. Can we still?
Of course, I still have friends with BMWs who loyally buy the next model of M's or 3 series regardless of what BMW does to it... some choose to do that and to each his own. I've chosen to look at every car purchase as a decision point which I may have to live with for years to come. It's also an opportunity to re-evaluate the brand and their car on it's merits at that point in time. Hopefully Porsche will avoid the path BMW took and steer back towards a more 993 and 997ish type car in the future. The 996 to 997 correction was welcomed and gives me hope this time around as well. Like some I'll be voting with my dollars when the time comes if Porsche changes course.
06-08-2012, 12:24 PM
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Hopefully Porsche will avoid the path BMW took and steer back towards a more 993 and 997ish type car in the future. The 996 to 997 correction was welcomed and gives me hope this time around as well. Like some I'll be voting with my dollars when the time comes if Porsche changes course.
06-08-2012, 03:49 PM
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Even if that were true and not merely a projection of your own self-esteem issues, in 3-4 years the cost of buying a MY13 991 will have dropped drastically. However those things about it many of us genuinely abhor will not have changed.
To me it resembles a cinema marquee.
Literally? Then one could assume your head has exploded? Yes, that would explain a lot.
To me it resembles a cinema marquee.
Literally? Then one could assume your head has exploded? Yes, that would explain a lot.
06-08-2012, 04:08 PM
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06-08-2012, 04:14 PM
#57
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I agree, it is what it is... if in the market today, I'd buy a GTS or GT3, in a few yrs, if I must buy a Porsche and have no alternative, I might have to bite the bullet, or just find a nice used GTS/GT3.
However, to suggest Porsche CANNOT make a mistake, and does not ever get it wrong is just completely ignoring the history, you forgot 996, 944, right? Also, you can never rely on the past to predict future. I strongly believe today's Porsche is just NOT the same company as it once was, even casual observers, including family and friends who have no bone in the Porsche brand, have commented that Porsche has been watered down as they now make a slew of cars including SUV, 4 door, and Cross overs. Do you think that in 20yrs, they got the same brand recognition as a primary sports car manufacturer as today? I do not think so... they probably will be financially successful, but the brand is just not the same, and their focus is just not the same, and that *might* lead to their demise. My 0.02.
However, to suggest Porsche CANNOT make a mistake, and does not ever get it wrong is just completely ignoring the history, you forgot 996, 944, right? Also, you can never rely on the past to predict future. I strongly believe today's Porsche is just NOT the same company as it once was, even casual observers, including family and friends who have no bone in the Porsche brand, have commented that Porsche has been watered down as they now make a slew of cars including SUV, 4 door, and Cross overs. Do you think that in 20yrs, they got the same brand recognition as a primary sports car manufacturer as today? I do not think so... they probably will be financially successful, but the brand is just not the same, and their focus is just not the same, and that *might* lead to their demise. My 0.02.
06-08-2012, 04:18 PM
#58
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Even if that were true and not merely a projection of your own self-esteem issues, in 3-4 years the cost of buying a MY13 991 will have dropped drastically. However those things about it many of us genuinely abhor will not have changed.
To me it resembles a cinema marquee.
Literally? Then one could assume your head has exploded? Yes, that would explain a lot.
To me it resembles a cinema marquee.
Literally? Then one could assume your head has exploded? Yes, that would explain a lot.
Man you do like to hear yourself talk (or type i guess)
