Except that they will be so riddled with potholes and cracks that we'll need pickup trucks to get around!

 

I think you and Mike are probably are of a similar class vs. different classes to have *class warfare*.

The problem as I explained earlier is that WE COLLECTIVELY have put short-term profits AND benefits over long-term prosperity of ALL CLASSES by SHIPPING jobs elsewhere and buying CHEAP CRAP MADE IN CHINA!

Instead of fighting amongst ourselves, we should start looking to the outside and see what's going on! Just pay a visit to Vancouver and see HOW MANY Millionares/Billionares visit here from China, take a trip to Shanghai or Beijing and see what is going on! The jobs, money, prosperity that once was all over North America has completely shifted over there and as much as they deserve credit for their progress, it's our fault to let it happen at the pace of the past two decades!

That's the problem with 2-party system, you guys start attacking each other, call each other names and are stuck within the idiologies while COMPLETELY MISSING that you are BOTH ON THE SAME SIDE and you need to focus energy/anger/frustration elsewhere to get out of this rut!

 

Hmmm. You seem to have chosen to overlook that in post 1, the OP specifically said that he was told to "go back to his own country", and that in post 8 he confirmed he was of Asian descent. There's your racism right there.

In light of the OP's statements, if racism never occurred to you then the only rational conclusions that one can draw are that you either consider this kind of behavior to be acceptable, which I am sure is not the case, or you never actually read the OP's posts before launching into your diatribe.

So, with that said, it's pretty obvious why a number of posters commented on the racism that the OP experienced. It's right there in his posts.... Perhaps it's not that us "liberals" aren't telling the truth - might it be more that you didn't bother reading the thread?

 

I didn't come to a conclusion out of the blue; it's simple reading comprehension. The OP is Asian. The jerks told him to "go back to his own country". They didn't call him a rich Porsche driving SOB. I don't claim certainty, but there is at least some evidence for the likelihood of my opinion. What evidence do you have for yours, much less the intellectual stretch of blaming the actions of jerks on the administration?

I'm not going to get into a pointless discussion about why you should care or not care about something. But do provide me with a single quote or reference where someone from the administration vilifies success. Not market manipulation or fraudulent behavior but success. One. Use google. I can wait.

I've already expressed my thoughts on the class warfare issue; we obviously disagree. The original suggestion for raising the highest marginal tax rate by 4.5% was for individuals making over $250K per year and families making over $500K. That was abandoned. The current proposal, is to raise the marginal rate on people making over $1M per year. The cutoff was never $200K, AFAIK, and I never heard or read of someone who called people who make $200K, millionares and billionaires. I don't know what you are talking about; it's ridiculous on the face of it. Again, for reference, provide a single example of someone from the administration making that kind of statement.

Did it ever occur to you that attempting to insult the person you're discussing a topic with might have something to do with the difficulty of getting your point across? To paraphrase something that you said above, if you find arguing with someone a waste of time look in the mirror and blame that guy...because he's responsible. I don't have all the answers and neither do you. If everyone started from there, we might actually find solutions to our problems.

 

Yeah....you got me....I didn't read the thread...that's it. When you're brilliant you're brilliant........

 

Hmm, and your response is even MORE brilliant!

 

You're completely missing the point. It's widely accepted that the US economy is made up by consumer spending at the rate of 70% to 75% and "consumers" in this context represent the so called middle class.

Look at the US society as a pyramid where the bottom represents the poor and the top the rich. How do you figure that chipping away at the bottom of the pyramid in order to expand the top will enhance the long term structure of this pyramid? That's exactly what we've been doing here for decades imo. Little by little although it seems to have accelerated in the last couple of decades. You may enjoy life at the top of the pyramid but you won't enjoy it for long if the base starts to crumble. No matter how self sufficient you think you are, you still depend on society as a whole to a large extent. In a civilized society that is. On the flip side, if anarchy is your thing you may be in luck.

As for the occupy movement, obscene amounts of money were been made by a very few at the expense of millions of others in the past 10 years. Maybe illegally and so far without consequence. That's what the movement is about in my opinion. Not class warfare. The worst case of class warfare I can recall in my lifetime was being forced to bail out financial institutions that had fleeced millions of taxpayers of their life savings with newly invented "financial instruments". As a taxpayer, you have no problem with that? I hear hardly a whisper from the far right about this outrage which is odd considering the ideology they like to advance. I.E....anyone who can't hold their own deserves to fail. The hold your own concept only applies to certain classes?

 

Lol u drive a Porsche bud

 

+1,000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Too funny!

 

This is such a BS argument!

You speak about the bottom as if those people had a name. The bottom is the bottom only for some finite time period and then they move up or down....they're not the same people and they're at the bottom because of the decisions they made....if they don't want to be there then do something about it but stop putting your hand out for my money. Go to work....go to school but do it with your money...not mine. O.K.?

We're not all in this together because I couldn't give 2 shi*ts about you if you're not my family or my friend....are you able to grasp that philosophy or is that too deep for you?

 

Wow

 

Racism is one of the worst kinds of prejudice.

I am sorry that you had to encounter such behavior and I feel more sad than angry for them..



PS. Please, do me a favor and leave politics out of this forum. Thanks!

 

I'm a conservative but I cringe every time I read Tommy's "arguments". Acting like a pouting teenager by throwing in personal insults with almost every point he tries to make. C'mon Tommy, the conservative cause does not need to stoop to that level.

Now enough with politics! This is a Porsche board!

 

To the OP - very sorry to hear this story. Not surprising in the least though.

Ignorance and racism are still alive and well in our society today.

 

Uh, guys. If this continues, it needs to be moved to the Off-Topic Politics and Controversy Forum.