What does the "Sport" button do?
12-07-2019, 02:15 PM
#31
Rennlist Member
I normally use the Sport Mode after Start-Up. I have noticed over the last few days when the car comes to a stop when I am parking it, (engine still running) when I place the button back to Normal, the car stalls, if i place the button back to sport mode, the car re starts on it's own. This will happen 8 out of 10 times. Any ideas on why this happens.
01-25-2020, 02:18 AM
#32
So... do people think sport mode is worth the upgrade?
My car is 997.2 C2S manual.
My complaints about the car are 1) psm kicks in too early leading me to turn it off sometimes but it worries me to leave it off.
and 2) throttle is laggy so I come close to stalling if I’m not paying close attention. Like I need to hit the gas a half second before I intend to go and release the clutch.
Would sport mode address those issues?
does there happen to be anyone in the SF Bay Area with a 997.2 sport mode 6MT who would be willing to demo the option to me? Skyline is what exposes the low psm thresholds for me.
My car is 997.2 C2S manual.
My complaints about the car are 1) psm kicks in too early leading me to turn it off sometimes but it worries me to leave it off.
and 2) throttle is laggy so I come close to stalling if I’m not paying close attention. Like I need to hit the gas a half second before I intend to go and release the clutch.
Would sport mode address those issues?
does there happen to be anyone in the SF Bay Area with a 997.2 sport mode 6MT who would be willing to demo the option to me? Skyline is what exposes the low psm thresholds for me.
01-25-2020, 01:49 PM
#33
Three Wheelin'
^^^ Sport mode would address both the issues you listed. PSM definitely kicks in later. I drive a boring same same route to work, and have tried all the combos. There is an onramp on my commute where if no one is around, I can have a little fun. normal mode = PSM holds the car back, Sport, PSM makes the rear feel like it is steering the car on throttle, PSM off = kinda scary TBH because the whole rear pendulum thing is new to me. The differences are noticeable and quantifiable. I feel like the laggy throttle in normal mode is easy to modulate. After 2 years, I am still trying to get to where the sport mode throttle does not feel like on/off more than anything. If you are the opposite, then I think you'll like the much more sensitive throttle response in sport mode.
I did not think about this before getting my car. I test drove cars with and without sports chrono but I did not turn sport mode on and off during my test drive. It was an oversight on my part but driving the car in normal mode at all times in LA traffic, I do not think it is a deal breaker. However, once I am in the canyons, sport mode is on. The only situation where I do not like it is in traffic, which is where it sounds like you would enjoy it as well as during spirited driving.
If you can test drive a car with it, I highly recommend doing so.
I did not think about this before getting my car. I test drove cars with and without sports chrono but I did not turn sport mode on and off during my test drive. It was an oversight on my part but driving the car in normal mode at all times in LA traffic, I do not think it is a deal breaker. However, once I am in the canyons, sport mode is on. The only situation where I do not like it is in traffic, which is where it sounds like you would enjoy it as well as during spirited driving.
If you can test drive a car with it, I highly recommend doing so.
01-25-2020, 05:28 PM
#34
I agree with the PSM behaviors as mentioned above. I would add that If you enjoy heal/toe down shifting then "Sport" mode is definitely a plus. With sport mode on the electronic throttle input is more aggressive. So dipping into 50% percent gas pedal travel feels more like 75% with sport mode on. The revs will climb faster with less throttle input which to me helps with heal/toe rev matching while down shifting. You just don't have to press so deep into the throttle pedal to get the revs up. I also agree with the stop and go traffic inputs and sport mode throttle response can be a little too sensitive when creeping along in traffic. Probably not as kind to your clutch either in those conditions since you may be giving it more throttle than necessary to creep along in 1st and 2nd gear. Other than traffic jams I leave sport mode on 99% of the time.
01-25-2020, 08:03 PM
#35
Instructor
Q: What is the Sport Chronograph Package Plus?
A: This option provides a sport mode, as well as a lap-timer/chronograph (placed on the top of the dashboard). The sport mode can be engaged through a "Sport" button, and has the following benefits:
(From the manual "A sportier car set-up is obtained when Sport mode is switched on. Interventions by the Porsche control systems are intentionally shifted towards greater agility and driving performance."
Turning the sport button on affects the following variables:
1) The Tiptronic S switches to a sporty gear changing map and shortens the gear shifting periods. Gear changes take place faster.
2) The electronic accelerator pedal reacts sooner, and the engine is more responsive to throttle inputs. When Sport mode is switched on, this function is activated only after the driver has floored the accelerator pedal and released it briefly. (Only in manual mode with the Tiptronic S)
"This produces a faster throttle response to accelerator pedal movements to subjectively increase the spontaneity of the engine.
When the Sport Chrono button is pressed, the abrupt cut-off (cf. section 2.3.14) is active in 1st to 5th gears for the manual gearbox (without Sport Chrono function only in 1st and 2nd gears) and in the manual setting for Tiptronic transmission.
The so-called dash pot is executed less smoothly and with less emphasis on comfort. This means that the throttle closes faster when released. The result is a heightened, “racing-like” engine dynamic. " (- MJones)
3) PSM (Porsche Stability Management) control is made more "sporty". PSM interventions take place later than in Normal mode. The driver can maneuver the vehicle with greater agility at its performance limits, without having to dispense with the assistance of PSM in emergency situations.
4) With PSE installed, makes the exhaust louder, and opens two additional pipes.
5) The rpm limiter characteristic is “harder”, i.e. the engine is immediately throttled when the performance limits are reached (only in manual selection mode for vehicles with Tiptronic S).
6) Adjusts the ABS thresholds, making them more aggressive (kicks in later)
7) PASM is automatically turned on, giving a sportier (stiff) ride. This results in harder damping and therefore more spontaneity when steering into corners. Body movements are noticeably reduced, improving road contact. Agility and driving pleasure, particularly on circuits, are also increased and overall driving stability in extreme driving situations improved.
8) Finally, there are the indivdual memory settings for:
* DRL
* Wipers
* Comfort lighting duration adjustable from 10 seconds to 120 seconds
* Automatic climate control: save basic setting (e.g. 73°F, fan set to maximum output and defrost on)
* Unlocking opens all doors or just the driver's door
* Autolock: off, on upon ignition or active after moving off
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Q: What is the PSE?
A: Porsche Sport Exhaust
The PSE option (available for approximately $2,000 USD) provides a more free-flowing, and louder exhaust, with a better, throatier exhaust note. When installed the PSE can be hooked up to be controlled by the "Sport" button, which comes with the Sport Chrono (the dealer should do this by default).
When the Sport button is ON, the PSE gets louder (uses all 4 pipes). When the Sport button is OFF, the PSE reverts to standard loudness (uses only 2 pipes).
With the Sport button ON, the PSE only kicks into loud mode above ~40 MPH.
There is a modification one can do to cause the PSE to be in it's more agressive setting all the time, which is documented here (need link).
If the PSE is installed without the Sport Chrono package (e.g. no Sport button), the installation also includes installation of this button to control the exhaust.
Question: With the Sport button off, is the PSE the same volume as the stock exhaust? What about the exhaust note, is it better?
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Q: What is PASM?
A: Porsche Active Suspension Management
The PASM option controls the stiffness of the shocks, and provides a more agressive, sporty setting for "spirited driving conditions" While a properly installed set of race coilovers is going to be better for true track setup, the point of PASM is to give the option between a comfortable ride, and a more sporty setup.
Note: PASM turns on automatically when Sport mode is turned ON.
Aftermarket vendors such as Techart offer sport springs for the 997 which lower the car from .75 to 1.5 inches. They generally have a specific part number for for cars equipped with PASM, and one for those without PASM.
PASM does not affect ride height.
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Q: What is PSM?
A: Porsche Stability Management
A good description of this option is listed in the manual. When turned ON (default setting), the throttle and brakes are modulated to prevent wheelspin and maintain traction.
As noted above, when the Sport mode is engaged, the PSM threshholds are relaxed to allow driving "closer to the limits of traction"
A: This option provides a sport mode, as well as a lap-timer/chronograph (placed on the top of the dashboard). The sport mode can be engaged through a "Sport" button, and has the following benefits:
(From the manual "A sportier car set-up is obtained when Sport mode is switched on. Interventions by the Porsche control systems are intentionally shifted towards greater agility and driving performance."
Turning the sport button on affects the following variables:
1) The Tiptronic S switches to a sporty gear changing map and shortens the gear shifting periods. Gear changes take place faster.
2) The electronic accelerator pedal reacts sooner, and the engine is more responsive to throttle inputs. When Sport mode is switched on, this function is activated only after the driver has floored the accelerator pedal and released it briefly. (Only in manual mode with the Tiptronic S)
"This produces a faster throttle response to accelerator pedal movements to subjectively increase the spontaneity of the engine.
When the Sport Chrono button is pressed, the abrupt cut-off (cf. section 2.3.14) is active in 1st to 5th gears for the manual gearbox (without Sport Chrono function only in 1st and 2nd gears) and in the manual setting for Tiptronic transmission.
The so-called dash pot is executed less smoothly and with less emphasis on comfort. This means that the throttle closes faster when released. The result is a heightened, “racing-like” engine dynamic. " (- MJones)
3) PSM (Porsche Stability Management) control is made more "sporty". PSM interventions take place later than in Normal mode. The driver can maneuver the vehicle with greater agility at its performance limits, without having to dispense with the assistance of PSM in emergency situations.
4) With PSE installed, makes the exhaust louder, and opens two additional pipes.
5) The rpm limiter characteristic is “harder”, i.e. the engine is immediately throttled when the performance limits are reached (only in manual selection mode for vehicles with Tiptronic S).
6) Adjusts the ABS thresholds, making them more aggressive (kicks in later)
7) PASM is automatically turned on, giving a sportier (stiff) ride. This results in harder damping and therefore more spontaneity when steering into corners. Body movements are noticeably reduced, improving road contact. Agility and driving pleasure, particularly on circuits, are also increased and overall driving stability in extreme driving situations improved.
8) Finally, there are the indivdual memory settings for:
* DRL
* Wipers
* Comfort lighting duration adjustable from 10 seconds to 120 seconds
* Automatic climate control: save basic setting (e.g. 73°F, fan set to maximum output and defrost on)
* Unlocking opens all doors or just the driver's door
* Autolock: off, on upon ignition or active after moving off
-----------------------
Q: What is the PSE?
A: Porsche Sport Exhaust
The PSE option (available for approximately $2,000 USD) provides a more free-flowing, and louder exhaust, with a better, throatier exhaust note. When installed the PSE can be hooked up to be controlled by the "Sport" button, which comes with the Sport Chrono (the dealer should do this by default).
When the Sport button is ON, the PSE gets louder (uses all 4 pipes). When the Sport button is OFF, the PSE reverts to standard loudness (uses only 2 pipes).
With the Sport button ON, the PSE only kicks into loud mode above ~40 MPH.
There is a modification one can do to cause the PSE to be in it's more agressive setting all the time, which is documented here (need link).
If the PSE is installed without the Sport Chrono package (e.g. no Sport button), the installation also includes installation of this button to control the exhaust.
Question: With the Sport button off, is the PSE the same volume as the stock exhaust? What about the exhaust note, is it better?
-----------------------
Q: What is PASM?
A: Porsche Active Suspension Management
The PASM option controls the stiffness of the shocks, and provides a more agressive, sporty setting for "spirited driving conditions" While a properly installed set of race coilovers is going to be better for true track setup, the point of PASM is to give the option between a comfortable ride, and a more sporty setup.
Note: PASM turns on automatically when Sport mode is turned ON.
Aftermarket vendors such as Techart offer sport springs for the 997 which lower the car from .75 to 1.5 inches. They generally have a specific part number for for cars equipped with PASM, and one for those without PASM.
PASM does not affect ride height.
-----------------------
Q: What is PSM?
A: Porsche Stability Management
A good description of this option is listed in the manual. When turned ON (default setting), the throttle and brakes are modulated to prevent wheelspin and maintain traction.
As noted above, when the Sport mode is engaged, the PSM threshholds are relaxed to allow driving "closer to the limits of traction"
