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Old 06-13-2010, 05:16 PM
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Breaking -- Congrats to Porsche 911 GT3 RSR in Le Mans 2010!

'Roots in racing, not posing.'
Old 06-13-2010, 05:18 PM
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If contrast stitching represents 'posing' (which is ridiculous) then so do many other Porsche attributes that happen to be aesthetic.

Porsche has nothing to apologize for in its claims, imho.
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Originally Posted by ADias
Not quite. BMW bought a dead brand, with no production. The new Mini is a bloated re-incarnation of the original Mini. The original Mini was a very small car. I know, I drove plenty. The current Mini is a fairly large hatch, competing with the Mazda 3 and the Golf.
Exactly.

And VW doesn't own Porsche it just has a major say at family gatherings An integrated merger of sorts which is very different than being bought and owned by a parent company like BMW.

The Mini as most today have only experienced is nothing like the original Mini that made the car what it was. Also having personal experience with the brand (the pre-BMW car) it was a better car before BMW took it over.

And yes...98th victory for Porsche at Le Mans with the GT2 class win today but I guess to some that probably is just posing.
Old 06-14-2010, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ADias
Not quite. BMW bought a dead brand, with no production. The new Mini is a bloated re-incarnation of the original Mini. The original Mini was a very small car. I know, I drove plenty. The current Mini is a fairly large hatch, competing with the Mazda 3 and the Golf.
Agreed. Good point.

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Old 06-14-2010, 03:58 PM
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:21 PM
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This Mini response to Von Platen's reply sounds like desperation.

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Old 06-14-2010, 04:24 PM
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Aaaah, the biting flies of summer.

Look, it's like boxing... if you want a shot at the champ, then work your way up through the ranks like he did. DONT be a priss and whine "not fair" when you show up on your first day and ask for a bout with the champ. In this case, the champ has won Le Mans 16 TIMES! Mini? Not so much.

"Those who can already have, those who can't try to ride coat tails." - paraphrase by me.

Flies... just swat 'em.
Old 06-14-2010, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bobesser
Our cars are VWs now, not Porsche.
Bob
Using the same logic, does that mean Ferraris are really Fiats?
Old 06-14-2010, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Using the same logic, does that mean Ferraris are really Fiats?
Right. And in Porsche's case it is not the same dependency. VAG may own PAG but Porsche Holding owns a large part of VAG.
Old 06-14-2010, 06:08 PM
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Does anyone have any idea what a 911 lap time would be for Road Atlanta? Surely someone here has lapped it during a PCA DE.
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Does anyone have any idea what a 911 lap time would be for Road Atlanta? Surely someone here has lapped it during a PCA DE.
As far as I understand, Mini actually didn't plan to race lap time with Porsche on the track of Road Altanta. It is some kind of trick race like egg-carrying race as just reported by Autoblog...

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Old 06-14-2010, 10:40 PM
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I think 16 overall victories and a class win at Le Mans this past weekend says enough.
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Originally Posted by axhoaxho
As far as I understand, Mini actually didn't plan to race lap time with Porsche on the track of Road Altanta. It is some kind of trick race like egg-carrying race as just reported by Autoblog...
I read that, but do we know this for sure?

My original question was in response to a MINI race driver (I've owned both and follow both forums) who thinks a MINI can lap RA within 5 seconds of a 911. I couldn't find any good lap times for what a 911 should be able to run the full track in.

If only I still had mine... Maybe I'll put $100 down on fastest lap at the next DE. His MINI vs. my C63.
Old 06-15-2010, 02:02 PM
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Not that any of the times are necessarily directly comparable due to different drivers and conditions etc but the Mini Cooper S Works was quite a bit slower @1.34 than the 997 times (1.26 and 1.29) around the Top Gear test track - and both of the 997 times were recorded in the wet...
Old 06-15-2010, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBahamas

Flies... just swat 'em.
Sometimes it's better not to swat the flies so that they can live out their lives as flies.



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