Rounded Oil drain plug
#1
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Rounded Oil drain plug
I’ve managed to round the oil drain plug on a 2009 911 Carrera. My first attempt to use a screw extractor resulted in the tip of the extractor breaking and embedding in the plug.
My second attempt to drill a pilot hole for another screw extractor resulted in putting a hole through the drain plug draining the oil pan.
The aluminum plug is very soft. I’m concerned that fitting a different screw extractor in this new hole will only result in expanding the hole without turning the plug. I’ve read other posts where some suggested a dremel to cut a slot across the bolt head and using a screwdriver or small chisel to tap the plug in the open direction.
The top of the bolt is barely proud of the pan, making this approach challenging for me.
Should I give another go with a less tapered (fatter) screw extractor? Plan C is to drop the pan and have a mechanic extract the plug on a bench.
What advice do others have here?
TRB
My second attempt to drill a pilot hole for another screw extractor resulted in putting a hole through the drain plug draining the oil pan.
The aluminum plug is very soft. I’m concerned that fitting a different screw extractor in this new hole will only result in expanding the hole without turning the plug. I’ve read other posts where some suggested a dremel to cut a slot across the bolt head and using a screwdriver or small chisel to tap the plug in the open direction.
The top of the bolt is barely proud of the pan, making this approach challenging for me.
Should I give another go with a less tapered (fatter) screw extractor? Plan C is to drop the pan and have a mechanic extract the plug on a bench.
What advice do others have here?
TRB
#2
Use a ***** punch with a hammer to make a divot about an eighth of an inch from the edge. Then angle the punch into the divot and hammer the plug loose. Then it will unscrew easily.
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If that doesn't work, get a stronger extractor (M14-M18) but only if you can drill in the centre! Alternatively cut a large left-hand thread and screw up to the stop. But here as well, only if center is available. It is important to remove the swarf afterwards -- that's why the chisel-solution is better.
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You need both of these in your arsenal
REXBETI Impact Bolt & Nut Remover Set, 13 Pieces Bolt Extractor Tool Set with Solid Storage Case https://a.co/d/aoxVWPY
NEIKO 04204A Hex-Head Multispline Screw and Bolt Extractor Set, Easy-Out Screw Extraction, Broken Bolt Remover, Stripped Fastener Tool, 1/8 Inch to 7/8 Inch in 1/32-Inch Increments, CrMo, 25 Pieces https://a.co/d/0VvZZGm
REXBETI Impact Bolt & Nut Remover Set, 13 Pieces Bolt Extractor Tool Set with Solid Storage Case https://a.co/d/aoxVWPY
NEIKO 04204A Hex-Head Multispline Screw and Bolt Extractor Set, Easy-Out Screw Extraction, Broken Bolt Remover, Stripped Fastener Tool, 1/8 Inch to 7/8 Inch in 1/32-Inch Increments, CrMo, 25 Pieces https://a.co/d/0VvZZGm
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Here are a couple of videos to give you an idea:
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Wayne's way is the fasted and easiest... stupid fast and easy.
Another approach if you have a Dremel, is just cut a slot across the top and use a simple flat head screwdriver... I have done Wayne's method and it is the easiest fastest. BTW, if you don't have a punch, just use one of those crappy philips head screwdrivers you refuse to throw away, and use its point to ding a divit in the plug head, then the corner of a flat head screwdriver and tap it to unscrew.
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Wayne's way is the fasted and easiest... stupid fast and easy.
Another approach if you have a Dremel, is just cut a slot across the top and use a simple flat head screwdriver... I have done Wayne's method and it is the easiest fastest. BTW, if you don't have a punch, just use one of those crappy philips head screwdrivers you refuse to throw away, and use its point to ding a divit in the plug head, then the corner of a flat head screwdriver and tap it to unscrew.
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#7
Did the same thing earlier this year. This worked for me.
Stripped the drain bolt and had to run down to ace hardware to pick up a spiral screw extractor. The one I used was from Irwin Hanson Size 6. Just used a hammer to set the extractor onto the stripped screw and was able to use a wrench to loosen the bolt.
Good luck hope you can find a solution that works for you.
Stripped the drain bolt and had to run down to ace hardware to pick up a spiral screw extractor. The one I used was from Irwin Hanson Size 6. Just used a hammer to set the extractor onto the stripped screw and was able to use a wrench to loosen the bolt.
Good luck hope you can find a solution that works for you.
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And get an east wood tap handle to center the extractor, I've had it where studs and hex heads break off and if the pilot holes off center a regular wrench will walk the extractor into the threads and then you got a new problem. Thats really the only thing good about allen heads, the pilot holes already centered after some knuckle head strips it. If you diy bondhaus makes a special set of allen keys that are slightly indented on the flat sides to grip harder than usual.
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Wayne's Method worked for me
I managed to removed the rounded oil pan drain plug using the method Wayne suggested. I used a center punch to create a small divot. I filed down a 3/8 inch chisel to create a sharper point. Once a had created a lip on the plug using the chisel, I used a flat-head screw to break it free. Thank you for all of the suggestions!
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I managed to removed the rounded oil pan drain plug using the method Wayne suggested. I used a center punch to create a small divot. I filed down a 3/8 inch chisel to create a sharper point. Once a had created a lip on the plug using the chisel, I used a flat-head screw to break it free. Thank you for all of the suggestions!
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I’m not surprised, the torque spec for the drain plug is ridiculous. I did my oil change for the first time in January, and stopped way before the torque spec as I felt like I was going to strip the plug. Something is definitely not correct about the OEM spec.
Do you guys use a different spec? Or just use the “that’s about right” feel by hand method?
Do you guys use a different spec? Or just use the “that’s about right” feel by hand method?
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I’m not surprised, the torque spec for the drain plug is ridiculous. I did my oil change for the first time in January, and stopped way before the torque spec as I felt like I was going to strip the plug. Something is definitely not correct about the OEM spec.
Do you guys use a different spec? Or just use the “that’s about right” feel by hand method?
Do you guys use a different spec? Or just use the “that’s about right” feel by hand method?
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Great trick/advice Wayne!
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I’ve managed to round the oil drain plug on a 2009 911 Carrera. My first attempt to use a screw extractor resulted in the tip of the extractor breaking and embedding in the plug.
My second attempt to drill a pilot hole for another screw extractor resulted in putting a hole through the drain plug draining the oil pan.
The aluminum plug is very soft. I’m concerned that fitting a different screw extractor in this new hole will only result in expanding the hole without turning the plug. I’ve read other posts where some suggested a dremel to cut a slot across the bolt head and using a screwdriver or small chisel to tap the plug in the open direction.
The top of the bolt is barely proud of the pan, making this approach challenging for me.
Should I give another go with a less tapered (fatter) screw extractor? Plan C is to drop the pan and have a mechanic extract the plug on a bench.
What advice do others have here?
TRB
My second attempt to drill a pilot hole for another screw extractor resulted in putting a hole through the drain plug draining the oil pan.
The aluminum plug is very soft. I’m concerned that fitting a different screw extractor in this new hole will only result in expanding the hole without turning the plug. I’ve read other posts where some suggested a dremel to cut a slot across the bolt head and using a screwdriver or small chisel to tap the plug in the open direction.
The top of the bolt is barely proud of the pan, making this approach challenging for me.
Should I give another go with a less tapered (fatter) screw extractor? Plan C is to drop the pan and have a mechanic extract the plug on a bench.
What advice do others have here?
TRB