Liste-Renn

Thank you.
Nice research, but a bit of cherry-picking...
All three are concourse-quality, low mile, highly specc'ed, impeccably presented, no-story, well-documented, near flawless examples.

A similar RWD 997 GTS coupe, 6MT, with full leather, has, and will, continue to fetch over MSRP.

Those valuations you listed are akin to the blue Sport Classic-like and Macadamia Brown 997 GTS coupes- which traded for $131K and $177K, respectively (all in).
Anomalies- but they can/do create a rising tide that often lifts all boats.

Comparative analysis on Bat:
997.2 TT BaT results
997 GTS Bat results

You are spot on that the over MSRP GTS are rare birds, but with far fewer 997 GTS in existence than .2 turbos, the pool of cars is much smaller and the demographic of admirers much narrower than TT buyers who may value the "GT" much more than the "S". Not that the performance factor is not present, it IS, but like a GT3 owner appreciates, it arrives in a very different manner than turbo grunt. Plus AWD weight/steering feel. Faster is not always "better". GT3 buyers are currently paying handsomely for that quality.

This GTS was only $7K, $12K including the Bat fee, over MSRP, but still a watershed sale:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...arrera-gts-24/

My take is that an outlier doesn’t set the market. There was an Honda S2000 that sold for $200k on BaT.
That doesn’t mean all the other ones listed for $40k are under-priced or reflective of a market downturn.

Liste-Renn

A great comment from @Skwerl:

"Counterpoint: 6-speed Turbo coupes are also holding value very well, particularly if you get an interesting color. Go for an 09-13 for even better value retention and rarity.

Some strategic mods can make it pretty "raw" as well: exhaust, stiffer engine and trans mounts, aggressive alignment/tires, upgraded shifter cables, maybe a lightweight flywheel, and you have a car that's much more explosive on the street than a GT3 that feels kind of slow unless you're ringing (Sic) its neck".

Note: 4964 total 997.2 turbo/turbo S coupes were produced (worldwide).
- Source: https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-91...ction-numbers/

Acropora8

I picked a couple that were outliers but take into consideration that all three of these examples sold within the past 4 months. Over msrp for a manual 997.2 turbo occurs quite often. Over msrp for a gts rarely occurs.

Quixotic1

GTS COUPE ON BAT

This high mileage PDK coupe should go for a reasonably low price. Might be a good driver/track car for someone. It has some good options and mods.

Liste-Renn

Thanks for the heads up.
This is in better overall condition than a 32K-mile Cab I just inspected across the Bay in Oakland.

Likes:
SPASM, LSD, full leather interior, detailed service records (plus replacement of wear items that 128K miles requires: engine and transmission mounts, water pump, thermostat, coolant reservoir, drive belt tensioner, ignition coils, and spark plugs). A Cali car with zero underside rust. $128K MSRP.

Mods:
Tasteful and unobstrusive; CSF center radiator, Sharky, DSC, newish tires/interior trim pieces, Apple CarPlay w/B/U camera and 100% XPel Stealth matte PPF.

Dislikes:
Comfort seats, 128K-miles of wear and a PDK with no extended warranty, a MF steering wheel (pure a personal preference)... and it is a San Francisco car with history on crappy roads, steeper than steep hills and suffered from the typical urban plight of "The seller notes repaired cracks in the front bumper cover, dents in the left rear quarter and the right rocker panel, scratches on the door handles..."

Mostly due to mileage/matte film and the original PDK, I predict it will hammer in the high 60's or low 70's, unless RNM.
A GREAT driver for someone who can rack up many enjoyable miles in a well cared for GTS.

Busta Rib

There is a SY GTS PDK at Porsche Colorado. Just posted a day ago, with 38K miles, not full leather. That color!

bluelines1974

It looks like it’s been very well maintained, and is in surprisingly good shape for 128k miles.

Acropora8

I thought we talked about this car already? It’s been there since April. They won’t budge on price.

bluelines1974

I just noticed that this car is a BaT alum - it last sold for $66k in 2021, with 122k miles. At that time, it was the original owner selling. Gotta respect someone who drove a GTS 12k miles a year for 10 years!

Acropora8

Hard to determine the condition of a car that's under a wrap.

bluelines1974

Not a GTS, but a very highly optioned low mileage 4S 6MT: https://www.fawsittmotors.com/listin...rera-4s-coupe/ $95k

And another 6MT turbo: https://tacticalfleet.com/2009-porsc...nerid=71870873 $140k

The Turbo is a beautiful Racing Green Metallic (older listing for the same car here: https://www.collectiveauto.com/vehic...6-speed-manual)

Liste-Renn

What is the ask they won't budge on?

Acropora8

I see that it’s current posted for $97k. I believe it was originally $99k when it was first posted. If you look back a couple pages, i think someone offered $90k and dealer wouldn’t budge. As cool of a color as SY is, the buyer pool is small. The fact that this has sat for multiple months tells us that it isn’t priced correctly or the proper buyer hasn’t come to the table yet. The overall car market continues to soften and used auto rates are still high so it shouldn’t come to a surprise that a $99k PDK GTS with close to 40k miles isn’t selling instantly.

Acropora8

Another one. Priced kind of high.

https://mart.pca.org/ads/70105

princetonprep17

Fawsitt always seems to find great cars, but man do they ever put Ryan Friedman to shame with pricing.