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Old 06-09-2024, 11:24 PM
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Data point:
BaT yesterday...$153.3K hammer on a 2009 6MT TT Coupe with 23K-miles.




Pull the car 20 feet forward and the pic would be even better!
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...urbo-coupe-27/

Only posting as a comparison that was made as an alternative to a 997 GTS valuation over $100K- a 997.1 or .2 GT3 or Metzger TT 6MT are not in the same price range.

Of course, I'm referring to < 30K miles, no stories, no obnoxious mods, 6MT, RWD, 997 GTS Coupes. Everything else is a sub-$100K GTS- according to auction results. With only a few exceptions...

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Old 06-10-2024, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Busta Rib
The GT cars are a different class and category than the Carrera models, including GTS. I wouldn't read too much into the appreciation curve of 997 GT3s vis-a-vis the GTS. Not to say the GTS won't appreciate in the future, but I don't think it will ever track to the GT3. It won't be long before a 997 GT3 will hammer for $300K and the RS will be $500K+ and continue to climb. On the other hand, I'm not sure if the GTS is capable of ever cresting the $200K mark. I hope I am wrong!
Totally agree. Having said that though, I live in a very Porsche rich town in southwest Florida. I see Porsches of all stripes every time I go for a drive. Even with a short drive to the grocery store and having owned my GTS for more than 4 years now I have yet to see another GTS here. Lots of "regular" Carreras, Turbos, Panameras, Boxsters and all the variants of the SUV models but not one single GTS so far. So they are rare. Only around 2,500 built for worldwide consumption if memory serves but that doesn't mean the value will explode as it sure will with the GT3's.

And I should add that I'm seeing Porsche models that I don't even know what they are. Muat have been some modified Panamera models rolled out that I haven't kept up with. Shame on me but the excuse is that I have no interest in that model line.
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Stunning PTS (amethyst) PDK GTS, with full leather and sports buckets. Sadly only for our European friends or Canadian buyers willing to wait until next year to import.

https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/por...-2011-3703506/
Old 06-10-2024, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bluelines1974
Stunning PTS (amethyst) PDK GTS, with full leather and sports buckets. Sadly only for our European friends or Canadian buyers willing to wait until next year to import.

https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/por...-2011-3703506/
Now that's a real unicorn GTS.
Old 06-11-2024, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bluelines1974
Stunning PTS (amethyst) PDK GTS, with full leather and sports buckets. Sadly only for our European friends or Canadian buyers willing to wait until next year to import.

https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/por...-2011-3703506/
Close to my car with the GT2 buckets and all except for the color, full leather and the wheels. What's the color "amethyst" anyway? At first it looked black to me but in some other shots I see shades of purple mixed in with the black. Or am I seeing things I shouldn't see? Either way it's beautiful and hard to believe there's another one like it out there.
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
Close to my car with the GT2 buckets and all except for the color, full leather and the wheels. What's the color "amethyst" anyway? At first it looked black to me but in some other shots I see shades of purple mixed in with the black. Or am I seeing things I shouldn't see? Either way it's beautiful and hard to believe there's another one like it out there.
The colour has a lot more red in it than it shows in the listing photos. Here it is on Rennbow:

https://www.rennbow.org/porsche-colors/MetallicAmethyst
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Originally Posted by Acropora8
Now that's a real unicorn GTS.
Check out the dealer’s website. They have some beautiful cars, including a PTS Racing Green Metallic 911R, and one of my childhood heroes, a 968 Turbo S:

https://stimpfig.de/angebot/fahrzeug/716

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This is a unicorn in its own right. I wonder what it would fetch if it was a manual. One of my favorite metallics, and I am generally not a metallic paint person. Simply stunning.

BTW, I discovered a link at the bottom of the ad that led to a page with comprehensive info on the 997 gen from Elferspot: https://www.elferspot.com/en/magazin...pecifications/

Originally Posted by bluelines1974
Stunning PTS (amethyst) PDK GTS, with full leather and sports buckets. Sadly only for our European friends or Canadian buyers willing to wait until next year to import.

https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/por...-2011-3703506/

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Old 06-11-2024, 01:08 PM
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Thanks, @bluelines1974 for posting. And ! agree with the comments. A one-of -one build, for sure.

I believe this is the first 997 GTS that might fetch more than the $131K PTS Blue one that is the highest publicly confirmed worldwide sale and current high water mark.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...arrera-gts-13/

If it was a 6MT, I'd wager a $150K+ hammer on BaT- maybe more via RF or GPM. But maybe I'm too optimistic about 997 GTS appreciation.

The Amethyst PTS is stunning to my eye, nuanced as opposed to the Skittles neon colors some folks prefer. Raspberry Red, Lemon Yellow, Orange Orange...look at me!
Reading the Euro build sheet translation was interesting, was not aware that one could order the decklid logo in exterior color (XUC model name painted), and the the wheel painted in exterior color, which I have on my BBM, but which is hardly discernible from the OEM black satin = (XD9 rim star painted).

And I've never seen these CXX options spelled out before:
  • CLE trim panel dashboard Alcantara
  • CLH PDK gear selector Alcantara
  • CMA mirror triangle painted
  • CNC air intake grille aluminum look matt
  • CYW sun visors Alcantara
Or these XXX:
  • XLG lid storage compartment Alcantara with Porsche lettering
  • XUC model name painted
  • XXG rear lights in clear glass look
BTW, I intend to start a new thread about "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" after being called out for disparaging RF, GPM and flippers of great cars in general.

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Old 06-11-2024, 02:01 PM
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Agreed! BTW, I believe Amethyst was a standard color option for the GTS, but based on @Body In White's awesome configuration chart, only 4 GTS' were configured in this amazingly beautiful color!

Originally Posted by Liste-Renn
Thanks, @bluelines1974 for postingI agree with the comments. A one-of -one build, for sure.

I believe this is the first 997 GTS that might fetch more than the $131K PTS Blue one that is the highest publicly confirmed worldwide sale and current high water mark.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...arrera-gts-13/

If it was a 6MT, I'd wager a $150K+ hammer on BaT- maybe more via RF or GPM. But maybe I'm too optimistic about 997 GTS appreciation.

The Amethyst PTS is stunning to my eye, nuanced as opposed to the Skittles neon colors some folks prefer. Raspberry Red, Lemon Yellow, Orange Orange...look at me!
Reading the Euro build sheet translation was interesting, was not aware that one could order the decklid logo in exterior color (XUC model name painted), the wheel exterior color, which I have on my BBM, but which is hardly discernible from the OEM black satin (XD9 rim star painted).

And I've never seen these CXX options spelled out before:
  • CLE trim panel dashboard Alcantara
  • CLH PDK gear selector Alcantara
  • CMA mirror triangle painted
  • CNC air intake grille aluminum look matt
  • CYW sun visors Alcantara
Or these XXX:
  • XLG lid storage compartment Alcantara with Porsche lettering
  • XUC model name painted
  • XXG rear lights in clear glass look
BTW, I intend to start a new thread about "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" after being called out for disparaging RF, GPM and flippers of great cars in general.
Old 06-11-2024, 03:07 PM
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Apparently the turquoise blue PTS car was sold again for closer to $180k - disclaimer being that this is anecdote not proof.

Somewhat related: I've noticed that way more of the Euro cars seem to have the full leather dash.

Originally Posted by Liste-Renn
Thanks, @bluelines1974 for postingI agree with the comments. A one-of -one build, for sure.

I believe this is the first 997 GTS that might fetch more than the $131K PTS Blue one that is the highest publicly confirmed worldwide sale and current high water mark.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...arrera-gts-13/

If it was a 6MT, I'd wager a $150K+ hammer on BaT- maybe more via RF or GPM. But maybe I'm too optimistic about 997 GTS appreciation.

The Amethyst PTS is stunning to my eye, nuanced as opposed to the Skittles neon colors some folks prefer. Raspberry Red, Lemon Yellow, Orange Orange...look at me!
Reading the Euro build sheet translation was interesting, was not aware that one could order the decklid logo in exterior color (XUC model name painted), the wheel exterior color, which I have on my BBM, but which is hardly discernible from the OEM black satin (XD9 rim star painted).

And I've never seen these CXX options spelled out before:
  • CLE trim panel dashboard Alcantara
  • CLH PDK gear selector Alcantara
  • CMA mirror triangle painted
  • CNC air intake grille aluminum look matt
  • CYW sun visors Alcantara
Or these XXX:
  • XLG lid storage compartment Alcantara with Porsche lettering
  • XUC model name painted
  • XXG rear lights in clear glass look
BTW, I intend to start a new thread about "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" after being called out for disparaging RF, GPM and flippers of great cars in general.
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Wow, if $180K is true, I'd be too embarrassed to admit it!

Re: Leather dash I wish mine had the full hide treatment. I don't notice the absence it until driving my Macan GTS with Alcantara and full leather...the deviated stitching on black leather is both subtle and obvious- if that makes sense. Alcantara B-pillars, sunvisors and headliner also create a nice vibe in the cabin.
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Originally Posted by Liste-Renn
Wow, if $180K is true, I'd be too embarrassed to admit it!

Re: Leather dash I wish mine had the full hide treatment. I don't notice the absence it until driving my Macan GTS with Alcantara and full leather...the deviated stitching on black leather is both subtle and obvious- if that makes sense. Alcantara B-pillars, sunvisors and headliner also create a nice vibe in the cabin.
Wow for that kind of money I would rather get a 993 Turbo manual...yikes!!!
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Originally Posted by Ed99
Wow for that kind of money I would rather get a 993 Turbo manual...yikes!!!
Low mileage 993 Turbos go for much more than that. A 57k mile one just sold for $201k, and a 9k one for over $300k.
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Carrara White manual cab with 23k miles at a Porsche dealer:

https://www.porschesouthpoint.com/us...e05b18daf6.htm

$126k build, LSD, ***, painted seat backs and side skirts. Asking $110k.

https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0CB2A93BS754727/

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