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Old 08-02-2024, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Liste-Renn
You have a vested interest and a dynamite set of wheels.
Yes, the OEM Spyder offsets are crap.
GLWS!
Forgive my ignorance; but what exactly is it that makes the OEM Spyder offsets "crap"? Any chance you can post visual comparisons to clarify this opinion? That would be helpful/aprreciated.
Old 08-02-2024, 12:18 PM
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High MSRP PDK RWD coupe with Aerokit: https://www.ryanfriedmanmotorcars.co...ra-gts-c-2178/

It was previously sold on PCar in 2021 for $94k: https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...rsche-911-gts/

And listed with Forman for $119k: https://www.formanmotorworks.com/12-997-gts

Build: https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AB2A91CS720746/WP0AB2A91CS720746WP0AB2A91CS720746WP0AB2A91CS720746

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Old 08-02-2024, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bluelines1974
High MSRP PDK RWD coupe with Aerokit: https://www.ryanfriedmanmotorcars.co...ra-gts-c-2178/

It was previously sold on PCar in 2021 for $94k: https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...rsche-911-gts/

And listed with Forman for $119k: https://www.formanmotorworks.com/12-997-gts

Build: https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AB2A91CS720746/WP0AB2A91CS720746WP0AB2A91CS720746WP0AB2A91CS720746
Nice find. That's going to be an expensive car on RFMC.
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Another one

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Old 08-02-2024, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wardrive
Hey guys, not really a car but these wheels are made for the 997 GTS. I know the owner and he had them on his 997 GTS before he traded it in for a GT3. I know he's willing to move on these since he had them for a while. Good guy and good wheels. Unfortunately these CL wheels are only good for owners of a 997 GTS or GT3RS so very limited pool of buyers.

https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1299664
thanks Warzilla! lol
Old 08-02-2024, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by G&S997.2
Forgive my ignorance; but what exactly is it that makes the OEM Spyder offsets "crap"? Any chance you can post visual comparisons to clarify this opinion? That would be helpful/aprreciated.


My GTS,same as pic #3, with OZ Superforgiata ET 48 rear (12”)

Sandwedge’s GTS with Forgeline ET 45 rear (11”)

OEM Spyders ET 51 (11”)

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Old 08-02-2024, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wardrive
Hey guys, not really a car but these wheels are made for the 997 GTS. I know the owner and he had them on his 997 GTS before he traded it in for a GT3. I know he's willing to move on these since he had them for a while. Good guy and good wheels. Unfortunately these CL wheels are only good for owners of a 997 GTS or GT3RS so very limited pool of buyers.

https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1299664
Pool is not that small…
98% of all GTS came with crappy offset CL Spyders.
I’d guess the 997.2 turbos were also virtually all CL.
Every 997.2 GT RS, RS 4.0 and GT2 came with relatively heavy, but far better offsets, and admittedly beautiful OEM CL wheels.
NOT polished rim Spyders. While actually forged by Fuchsfelge (original Fuchs wheel supplier from 901 on) they are still heavier by 5-6 lbs per wheel than my 1” wider OZ SF.
Comapre @fayraree ’s wheels posted above weights against the 997 GTS Spyders- it’s 4 or 5 lbs per wheel lighter, at least.

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Old 08-02-2024, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bluelines1974
High MSRP PDK RWD coupe with Aerokit: https://www.ryanfriedmanmotorcars.co...ra-gts-c-2178/

It was previously sold on PCar in 2021 for $94k: https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...rsche-911-gts/

And listed with Forman for $119k: https://www.formanmotorworks.com/12-997-gts

Build: https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AB2A91CS720746/WP0AB2A91CS720746WP0AB2A91CS720746WP0AB2A91CS720746
OUCH!
That Can-Can red bordello interior hurts my eyes.
With PDK, not a $120K car- not even a $94K one, in my eyes.
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Originally Posted by Acropora8
I just did a thorough inspection of this car late last month…and ran, not walked away.
Nice PP seller but several red flags were apparent in a walk around and underside inspection.
Have video and lots of pics if you are interested.

Would not have paid more than $75K for it, despite the $90K he had it listed for. Just didn’t want to invest the time fixing everything to get it sorted out.
A shame it was not better cared for- not many of this build around with 32K miles.
Perhaps GPM fixed the cosmetic and possibly structural problems- but it needed some TLC.
They should have, considering the $10K mark-up if they paid his $90K ask. Likely they did not, as he was eager to sell.

PM me for the gory details.


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Old 08-03-2024, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by G&S997.2
Forgive my ignorance; but what exactly is it that makes the OEM Spyder offsets "crap"? Any chance you can post visual comparisons to clarify this opinion? That would be helpful/aprreciated.
some more pics to demo the “sunken in” OEM Spyders…back when I owned the car I didn’t take pics at the perfect angle to show the full extent of the “sunkenness” but these were the best angles I could find. Shows up more clearly in person. The other issue with OEM is the car was too high so I bought TechArt lowering springs spec’d for a 4GTS (accounts for the extra weight of the AWD) but never installed before trading in for my GT3. Still have the unused new springs for sale, should probably post them lol

…in the original bronze color I purchased the car with:


…after I powder coated in black:


…and in their Forgeline glory:



Old 08-03-2024, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Liste-Renn
My GTS,same as pic #3, with OZ Superforgiata ET 48 rear (12”)

Sandwedge’s GTS with Forgeline ET 45 rear (11”)
May be insignificant and may be my fault for posting bad numbers but my Forgelines are 12" rear with 46 offset and the fronts are 9" with 50 offset. It also sits on Eibach springs in the picture shown. I have H&R springs now so it sits about 1/4" lower now. Doesn't sound like much but as I've said before, that little quarter inch is very visible. At least to me. Pulls it all together.

Just me but if I did it again I would bring the rears out another 1-2 mm. Fronts at 50 offset are perfect.
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Old 08-04-2024, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fayraree
some more pics to demo the “sunken in” OEM Spyders…back when I owned the car I didn’t take pics at the perfect angle to show the full extent of the “sunkenness” but these were the best angles I could find. Shows up more clearly in person. The other issue with OEM is the car was too high so I bought TechArt lowering springs spec’d for a 4GTS (accounts for the extra weight of the AWD) but never installed before trading in for my GT3. Still have the unused new springs for sale, should probably post them lol

…in the original bronze color I purchased the car with:


…after I powder coated in black:


…and in their Forgeline glory:


Thanks! This is what I needed to understand what was being referenced.
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Originally Posted by sandwedge
May be insignificant and may be my fault for posting bad numbers but my Forgelines are 12" rear with 46 offset and the fronts are 9" with 50 offset. It also sits on Eibach springs in the picture shown. I have H&R springs now so it sits about 1/4" lower now. Doesn't sound like much but as I've said before, that little quarter inch is very visible. At least to me. Pulls it all together.

Just me but if I did it again I would bring the rears out another 1-2 mm. Fronts at 50 offset are perfect.
Thank you for posting the pics and info.
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https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/por...aign=Suchagent


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Originally Posted by ThomasCarreraGTS
Was originally posted on rennlist for $120k.
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