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Old 11-15-2022, 03:28 PM
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Expensive, but beautiful.

2012 Dark Blue Metallic 6MT Carrera 4 GTS (11,570 miles)
Old 11-15-2022, 03:32 PM
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Beautiful car no doubt! I hate to admit this but I'm spoiled now and must have full leather. Ridiculous I know.
Old 11-15-2022, 03:50 PM
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UPDATE:
Hammer price was $65K, $68,250 all-in. Wow, the buyer was lucky the reserve was low.
That is pre-pandemic pricing.

Another Carrara White PDK coupe w/ 41.6K miles on BaT.



$60K high bid with an hour to go…

Bidders are concerned about possible paint work not on CarFax or a seller explanation.

Very clean car exterior, interior and frunk- looks new.




Variations from build sheet are: red taillights replaced with clear, side script changed to 991 GTS format (It annoys me a bit that mine has the word “Carrera” in three places- bit of overkill?) and the rockers/interior transmission hump are painted body color (and the front lip is left black, which is normally replaced/repainted more often than the rockers).

To my eye, it looks lowered from PASM height- actual appears to be lower than SPASM- which does not appear on the build sheet- but no mention of that mod in the listing.

Very comprehensive listing by the seller- all maintenance records from one dealer, paint meter readings, hi-def pics in great light, etc., etc.

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...carrera-gts-1/

We’ll know in an hour what a clean PDK coupe with ***, Sport Chrono and the other ubiquitous premium options trades for. Last few have been in the low to mid 80s.

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Here is a gem condition GR AWD listed by a high ask paradigm seller with little pertinent info but great pics asking all the $107K for a 7K mile PDK $127K MSRP (!!) example.

https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AB2A90CS720821/


Busy 3-tone interior and 5-lugs:






Old 11-15-2022, 04:24 PM
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But Grand Prix Motors listings are always sky high for, admittedly, unicorn examples with collector mileage:

https://www.grandprimotors.com/used/...6e31ef1100.htm

Calling it “A great deal!” at $135K for a GTS is pretty rich. Even with 5800 miles and a 6MT w/ RWD…the MSRP was only $112K.

https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AB2A95CS720460/

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Old 11-15-2022, 06:21 PM
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IG user @globalcartizen is about to list a 2012 997 GTS manual CPO for sale. No affiliation. Contact directly for details.


Old 11-15-2022, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Liste-Renn
But Grand Prix Motors listings are always sky high for, admittedly, unicorn examples with collector mileage:

https://www.grandprimotors.com/used/...6e31ef1100.htm

Calling it “A great deal!” at $135K for a GTS is pretty rich. Even with 5800 miles and a 6MT w/ RWD…the MSRP was only $112K.

https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AB2A95CS720460/
Truth! I bought my 991 GTS from GP Motors... Voodoo PTS and 6,500 miles.

To their credit, it was the easiest car purchase I've ever made... we did it all via text message including the price negotiation and they fixed a few minor bits turned up by the PPI before shipping the car to me.. e.g replaced struts on engine cover which are a known issue on 991s. I'd buy from those guys again. Can't say the same about the local Porsche dealership that sold me my 997 GTS...

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Old 11-16-2022, 02:40 AM
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@Busta Rib , I could not access any text about selling his GTS on IG, but I did notice he displays a Pegasus decal like you have on your car.




I googled and learned something today. Mahalo.
https://www.airbrigade.com/post/pors...e-pegasus-logo
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Old 11-16-2022, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Liste-Renn
UPDATE:
Hammer price was $65K, $68,250 all-in. Wow, the buyer was lucky the reserve was low.
That is pre-pandemic pricing.

Another Carrara White PDK coupe w/ 41.6K miles on BaT.



$60K high bid with an hour to go…

Bidders are concerned about possible paint work not on CarFax or a seller explanation.

Very clean car exterior, interior and frunk- looks new.




Variations from build sheet are: red taillights replaced with clear, side script changed to 991 GTS format (It annoys me a bit that mine has the word “Carrera” in three places- bit of overkill?) and the rockers/interior transmission hump are painted body color (and the front lip is left black, which is normally replaced/repainted more often than the rockers).

To my eye, it looks lowered from PASM height- actual appears to be lower than SPASM- which does not appear on the build sheet- but no mention of that mod in the listing.

Very comprehensive listing by the seller- all maintenance records from one dealer, paint meter readings, hi-def pics in great light, etc., etc.

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...carrera-gts-1/

We’ll know in an hour what a clean PDK coupe with ***, Sport Chrono and the other ubiquitous premium options trades for. Last few have been in the low to mid 80s.

And now we know- $65k.
Old 11-16-2022, 12:51 PM
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Cool article. There is more history than I previously knew. I was aware of the "guidelines" for decal placement. If Mobil was paying me, I would pay attention. But since they aren't, f-it.

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@Busta Rib , I could not access any text about selling his GTS on IG, but I did notice he displays a Pegasus decal like you have on your car.

I googled and learned something today. Mahalo.
https://www.airbrigade.com/post/pors...e-pegasus-logo
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Old 11-16-2022, 05:07 PM
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$98,606 with buyers fee.
That's a good deal given he gets both sets of seats, one of which is worth $10k itself, plus the other mods. I like the GT3RS wheels here.
Persnickety, but I'd get rid of the bed liner spray on the front lip and redo that in an SEM Trim black. Otherwise, not much to touch. Great build.


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Interesting Carrara White GTS manual for sale on Pcar, including bucket seats, Sports Suspension, limited-slip differential, Sport Chrono Package Plus, and Interior Package in Carbon. Currently at $69,995 with 2 days to go: https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...11-carrera-gts
  • Year: 2012
  • Make: Porsche
  • Model: 911 Carrera GTS
  • VIN: WP0AB2A99CS720378
  • Mileage: 54,143
  • Transmission: Manual
  • Title Status: Clean
  • Color: Carrara White



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Old 11-16-2022, 05:21 PM
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With Buyers Premium just over $100k like we said. We've pretty well defined the GTS market in it's current state. PDKs sell for $75-$85 and 6 speeds $95-$105 unless there's something really special about the car being discussed (super low miles, rare and desirable color scheme, etc).
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Actually, it was just shy of $100K ($98,606 with buyer's fee). The Carrara White car with PDK and 41K miles hammered at $65K, or almost $29K less than this car. Who says there isn't a premium for manuals?

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With Buyers Premium just over $100k like we said. We've pretty well defined the GTS market in it's current state. PDKs sell for $75-$85 and 6 speeds $95-$105 unless there's something really special about the car being discussed (super low miles, rare and desirable color scheme, etc).
Old 11-16-2022, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Busta Rib
Actually, it was just shy of $100K ($98,606 with buyer's fee). The Carrara White car with PDK and 41K miles hammered at $65K, or almost $29K less than this car. Who says there isn't a premium for manuals?
Always a premium but not a $30k one. This had the GT seats.
Old 11-16-2022, 11:28 PM
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That one had about 30K worth of factory GT upgrades. What a well put together GTS. It's a good deal at 100K for someone that appreciates the top tier upgrades.

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Always a premium but not a $30k one. This had the GT seats.
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