Petza914

No, I get the desirability of the GTS. Limited numbers, wide body in a RWD, a bit of extra.power, etc. Porsche makes so many models and trims so there is one for everyone. It's just not the one I'd personally choose for similar money to a GT3 or Turbo for the way I'd use that car.

It also probably makes no sense to people that I have a 650 HP family vacation SUV, but that's what I wanted so that's what I have.

ThomasCarreraGTS

You can never have too much power in any car, even a family SUV! My wife drives a 2015 Cayenne S with stock 420 HP. I wouldn’t mind 650 go when we pack it up and use it on summer vacation drives! Have a great weekend.

Doug H

I am a Turbo guy and this GTS is the only non-Turbo 911 I have used as a daily driver since the late 80s. I am going back to Turbo here shortly. That does not mean a manual 2012 GTS with only 4K miles on it is not worth $95k or even more to someone that wants the absolute best example of a super rare car.

RE: Mileage

This low mileage stuff is pretty silly. My only concern is old tires.

One of my closest friend just inherited about a 70 car collection after his father passed. He had stuff like a Gen I Viper with 800 miles, Testerossa with 1,500 miles, old Mercedes SLs with 2k or less miles and etc.

I took both the Viper and the Testerosss out on NCM Motorsports Park and had a blast in them with no issues. I was worried the Ferrari would break, but nadda.

dgoldenz

Interesting. I just bought a 2009 4S with 6k miles (PDK though) and was wondering what it would go for, not that I'm planning to sell it right now. I would bet this closes around $90-95k but I could be wrong... That would put it at $95-100k range with BAT fees

Prairiedawg

Nothing makes me happier (almost) than seeing the manual GTS prices going for stupid high money.

C4SDayton

That's a nice car for sure. With those miles, it's probably destined for a climate controlled garage under a dust cover. Sport seats and 5 lug wheels would be to my taste, but at least the comfort seats in this example avoids the fake suede. I wouldn't pay top of the range $ this will get for white over black, but it's worth what the final bidder is willing to pay, to them anyway.

stiffler199

Not a unicorn—
No Sport seats
PCCBs
Aerokit
Not a rare color for a GTS. White was best selling color.

63mercedes

It's a great car no one will debate that, but yeah it's not PTS or crazy optioned. For that money I'd get a good used turbo. I bet the guy buying it always wanted a new one and now has the money. So if it goes for 100k and new it was 112-120k i guess he's fulfilling his dream. The owner I guess is the one taking the hit on the depreciation. That could be a big hit for only driving 4k miles, I would personally have driven it more. It's not framed art, I'd drive it.

Doug H

I think sale results have shown that Aero Kit does not increase value on these. I love aero kit though. PCCBs don't really matter for value either. White also has a broader market than PTS.

The rarity here is manual and low miles, both of which really drive the price.

Lemarp

Aerokit should really drive the price on these because it's so much wilder with it without being overstated.

Same with alcantara delete as i've found some surprisingly low mileage cars that don't age well with alcantara on the main touch points (though some pics on here from users it looks like it holds up decently well - guess it's a care thing?).

Of course that's just my $0.02. I don't follow GTS sale prices too closely. My car isn't going anywhere so doesn't really matter what the resale prices are.

Doug H

I thought aero kit would as well, but the aero kit GTSs have not done as well in the very low mile, mint cars. Again, I think it is a broader appeal, but I love aero kit cars. I am also not a fan of alcantara unless it is for a dedicated track car that I could care less about looks.

hexagone

I will say there are three camps:

Those with 997.2 ownership or seat time that will not clamor for a GTS. The price delta vs. incremental butt dyno value just isn't there. Short of a wide rear, my 100k mile 6MT C2S has more options and overall desirability (for me) than most weirdly specced (plastic dash/PDK) GTSs out there.

Those who want to get into 997.2 ownership and admire the GTS, but find the value equation to not add up at all (95% of a GTS can be had in an S or 4S at 60% of the price) and would rather get a GT3/Turbo when GTS pricing is up there

Those whose marginal value of a dollar is close to 0 and are willing to pay $100K for a GTS or some absurd amount for an air cooled car because of collectibility, etc. For those low mileage means a lot - I personally could not care less.

BAT bring out a lot of camp 3. That's for whom this car will be.

Doug H

If you want to go by butt dyno and driver capabilities, 99% on here need only a base Carrera.

I really like the looks of the center lock wheels and the front end, the X51 with the PSE sounds good and has a little extra push for in town driving and GTS looks great with lower trim panels painted.

I don’t care about full leather and rather have more area under the torque curve than a leather dash.

Those worried about leather dashes and tail lights may not be real sports cars guys and probably never see the red line. My cars see red line/rev limiter all day every day and never get washed.

Suppose it’s all about what you purchase a car for. Looks or performance, but I do like sporty looks and aero kits.

ThomasCarreraGTS

100%

Greg2010

Well I guess I'm to blame for causing this nonsense rant!

Can we all at least all agree that owning a 997 is a good thing?!!!

Maybe next we can mostly agree that a low mileage manual GTS is a rare find, and therefore if you are interested in acquiring one (ie GTS, manual, low mileage) you have an opportunity to simply buy it or pass (no need to argue pointless reason why you would do differently).

Geez, last time I try to help out someone on this forum who's looking for a rare/ great car!