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I have had my 09 C4S for almost 2 years now, and it has been perfect since day 1 ! No issues at all, and no quirks you need to be aware of. Good luck on your PPI.
Look for moisture inside the rear taillights and especially the horizontal reflective strip that runs along the bottom of the decklid. If it has PCCB brakes (yellow calipers), those rotors need to be checked very carefully for any surface imperfections or edge chips. Depending on the mileage, could be spark plugs and coil packs and if it's a PDK, there's a PDK service interval that needs to be followed - think it's 6 years or 60k miles. If a MT, and you're close to 60k miles, should change the fluid with Mobillube PTX. Other than those, just regular stuff likes brakes, tires, alignment, oil, etc.
Wow! Thanks! The PPI identified moisture in the right rear tail light assembly. Sounds like a design error. It’ll be replaced. Is there a recall that recommends a procedure it prevent recurrence?
Also, owner is going to a local tire store for 4 new tires, split the cost. Suggesting Dutch tire Vredestein. Reviews seem pretty good. Any thoughts? I’ve normally run Michelin’s.
I'm with stripersteve, I have a 2009 C4S now in the 4th year of ownership and rolling up on 80K. Last fall I replaced plugs, coil packs, and valve lift solenoids and worn rear toe adjuster. No issues other than routine maintenance. Enjoy the ride.
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Wow! Thanks! The PPI identified moisture in the right rear tail light assembly. Sounds like a design error. It’ll be replaced. Is there a recall that recommends a procedure it prevent recurrence?
Also, owner is going to a local tire store for 4 new tires, split the cost. Suggesting Dutch tire Vredestein. Reviews seem pretty good. Any thoughts? I’ve normally run Michelin’s.
Yep, my brother bought an 09 C2S from Carmax last year and their warranty replaced both his taillights and a bunch of other stuff to the tune of about $5,000.
I have no personal experience with Vredestein tires. On my 997 and 928 I run Nitto Invos. On my wife's 997 we run Hankook Evo Ventus 2. The Nittos have better dry grip and higher performance, but less tread life. She doesn't drive like me and uses her car all the time so better wet grip and longer tread life are why we use the Hankooks. I've had Michelins before and personally haven't found them to be worth the cost difference. I'm not sure I'd want to experiment with Vredesteins though - also avoid Dunlop and BF Goodrich. Continental also makes a good tire.
Oh, and on a 4S, it's important to get the right size tires or you'll damage the AWD transfer case and PSM system if the front and rear have a significantly mismatched rolling circumference. Probably a 235/35-19 and 305/30-19 are what you should run. The rears may have been a 295, but going to a bit wider 305 seems to be fine. Those are the sizes I currently on my C2S, but am going wider on my custom wheels on the next set.
Last edited by Petza914; Aug 25, 2020 at 10:23 AM.
Wow! Thanks! The PPI identified moisture in the right rear tail light assembly. Sounds like a design error. It’ll be replaced. Is there a recall that recommends a procedure it prevent recurrence?
Also, owner is going to a local tire store for 4 new tires, split the cost. Suggesting Dutch tire Vredestein. Reviews seem pretty good. Any thoughts? I’ve normally run Michelin’s.
Stay with Michelins. No comment on the suggested tire but the first thing I'm doing on my new-to-me 09 C4S is dumping the Falkens that came with it for Michelins.
Also, owner is going to a local tire store for 4 new tires, split the cost. Suggesting Dutch tire Vredestein. Reviews seem pretty good. Any thoughts? I’ve normally run Michelin’s.
If I were selling my car and splitting the tire replacement costs, I too would recommend cost-saving Dutch rubber.
However, if I were the buyer, I would want the best tires I could find for my new ride.
As many on this board pray at the altar of PS4S (or it's Michelin cousins) why not go with the gold standard? It'll cost you about $200 more for your half, but you'll be getting a new set of Michelins at a 50% discount. That's hard to pass up.
At any rate, good luck with the C4S and remember to post pics!!
Any advice on what to expect from an 09 911 4S as to maintenance? Handling? Issues? Having a PPI done this morning.
Owned an 03 Cab, 08 Coupe, 14 S snd a 14 Panamera.
Had an -09 C4S launch car for about 3 years. Put some 40K miles on it. PDK car and the PDK failed but was covered by extended warranty. Also had the water pump fail around 43K miles which trashed the serpentine belt along with it. Covered by the same warranty. If not under warranty the PDK would have cost me $14,000 and the water pump about $1,200. Other than that, no issues. Burned more oil than my previous -06 C4S though. No big deal. A quart every 1,100 miles or so where the -06 hardly burned any oil at all.
I have tried many tire brands other than Michelin and I keep coming back to them for all my cars except one. My MDX runs Conti's and they have been every bit as good as the Michelins. I believe Conti extreme contract comes in the right sizes. I have yet to replace the tires on the 911. I will decide what to buy at that time.
As far as maintenance, if the car is PDK and you cannot verify that the PDK fluid has been changed, do it. It's a very reliable transmission, but as others have stated, can be costly to replace and there are very limited repair options for it. Also if you don't live in a very cold climate, I recommend using a 5W-40 oil. My C4S was going through a quart about every 1500 miles when I used Mobil 1 0W-40. I now use my Indy's suggested oil Total in a 5W-40 and the motor is quieter and the oil goes about 2400 miles per quart.
Use top tier fully synthetic oil only and change every 5K or annually (which is the forums general consensus). An additive like Liquimoly MoS2 or Ceratec is also a good idea although it drives up the cost a bit.
Wow! Thanks! The PPI identified moisture in the right rear tail light assembly. Sounds like a design error. It’ll be replaced. Is there a recall that recommends a procedure it prevent recurrence?
Also, owner is going to a local tire store for 4 new tires, split the cost. Suggesting Dutch tire Vredestein. Reviews seem pretty good. Any thoughts? I’ve normally run Michelin’s.
Make sure it's a nice and fat 305's in the rear. Pics when you have it please.
He sells Fidelity extended warranties at about a 40% discount to most if not all others. Maybe there's somebody even less expensive out there somewhere but Rennlisters seem to go to Michael without exception based on what I've seen over the years. Question is if Fidelity will cover an 11 year old car. I think I read or heard somewhere that their cutoff point is 10 years but that may not be right. Michael will obviously know if he can sell you a policy or not.
Thanks. I’ll look into that. My mechanic is about 45 minutes away, and worked in the dealership before Porsche left Little Rock decades ago. Wonder if a warranty would accept their work? My closest dealership is 180 miles away in Shreveport. No loaner if I didn’t buy from them.
Having trouble posting a pic of the car. I choose it, it appears, but the Upload icon doesn’t appear to be active and doesn’t attach the pic to my post.
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Pics when you have it please.