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I guess I was wrong in assuming recall items had no expiration date. I wouldn't expect them to be valid for the life of the car but that they would reject it a measly two years after my pump was replaced for free seems a bit customer unfriendly.
As for a Fidelity extended warranty, the cost is all over the map depending on the age and mileage of your car. I could be wrong on this but I don't think they cover cars 10 years or older. And as a reference, I bought a 3 year, 36,000 mile platinum policy a year ago for $5,800 with 61,500 miles on the clock on my -2011 GTS. The platinum policy is basically identical to factory warranty or CPO and is exclusionary as opposed to inclusionary. In other words, it specifies what's not covered as opposed to an endless list of items that are covered. The list of items not covered by the platinum policy is pretty short btw. Only reason I bought it is the PDK. Had a failure on my -09 C4S due to some stupid electronic part that still required full replacement which wasn't cheap.
Best way to get a quote for your car is to contact Michael at Mossy Motors in New Orleans. His email is mjourdan@mossymotors.com. Based on what I've read around here and elsewhere his pricing for these policies is hard to beat.
I purchased a Fidelity Platinum 6yr / 60k for my '09 C2S this past November (25k mile car.) Purchased through Mossy Motors - Michael Jordan. Price was about $6k. ($250 deductible.).
Primary concern for me was the PDK - however virtually anything on the car that fails is potentially expensive to replace. Electronics. HVAC. Water pump. You name it. I did not want to have the nagging worry of any of that hanging over me through the ownership experience.
The HPFP on my 2009 911S (I am the only owner) was replaced twice, both times without any charge. The first time the pump went out was just a few months after I bought it in April of 2009.
My dealer flew in a replacement and I was back on the road in a few days. I was contacted a few years later by PNA and told to bring the care to have it replaced a second time with a new design.
Anyone with HPFP problems should make sure that the have the new design and if not Porsche should pick up the tab for a replacement.
The HPFP was replaced on my '09 C2S on 8/31/15. The car had 17,652 miles on it then. (Car was no longer under warranty - 6 years old then.) The work order (from Motor Works Porsche) states the following:
Please Perform Open Recall WB08
Cause: High pressure fuel pump replaced per wb08
WB08 Replace High Pressure Fuel Pump
FC: WB080660001
No charge
Claim Type: W
I do not believe recalls have an expiration date. That said depending on the pump build number you may or may not have a recall on your HPFP. My 2009 still had the recall on it and was replaced free of charge in 2018 even though I had no issues.
I purchased a Fidelity Platinum 6yr / 60k for my '09 C2S this past November (25k mile car.) Purchased through Mossy Motors - Michael Jordan. Price was about $6k. ($250 deductible.).
Primary concern for me was the PDK - however virtually anything on the car that fails is potentially expensive to replace. Electronics. HVAC. Water pump. You name it. I did not want to have the nagging worry of any of that hanging over me through the ownership experience.
Great deal that just hammers home the point of how mileage affects the price of these policies. As I recall it, Michael told me that if I had bought my policy before crossing over the 60K mile threshold it would have saved me close to $2,000. Next big hurdle in my mileage zone is 75K miles. He said the difference in price between 74,999 miles and 75,000 is in the order of thousands of $.
There is a recall on 09 cars and some built in 10. The design was apparently changed in 10. My car is an 11, so no recall per PCNA.
I did buy the car CPO so the price certainly included some cost component for the CPO. I opted not to buy a separate extended warranty... e.g Fidelity. Looking at the prices people paid, I'm still ahead financially even w/ the repairs I've covered OOP including the HPFP. My car is manual. I understand why someone with PDK would buy the warranty though.
There is a recall on 09 cars and some built in 10. The design was apparently changed in 10. My car is an 11, so no recall per PCNA.
I did buy the car CPO so the price certainly included some cost component for the CPO. I opted not to buy a separate extended warranty... e.g Fidelity. Looking at the prices people paid, I'm still ahead financially even w/ the repairs I've covered OOP including the HPFP. My car is manual. I understand why someone with PDK would buy the warranty though.
Did a search on my car using the VIN #. My car is an 11 too and looks like the official build date was January 2011 (see attachment) but I still got the recall treatment. What a screwy situation. What's the meaning of "some built in 10" anyway? Where was the cutoff point in 2010? Whatever it was it still makes no sense since my 2011 build wasn't excluded from the recall.
My 2010C4S was built in July 2009. So comparing the build date to the model year inserts some confusion.
Changing parts in the middle of a model year is not unusual. Assume you will get the wrong brake parts when doing a rebuild on a Ford truck even if you have the VIN and build day ... Those parts get changed continuously. Ask me how I know!!!
Model years are where you see feature changes (adding the third radiator).
Did a search on my car using the VIN #. My car is an 11 too and looks like the official build date was January 2011 (see attachment) but I still got the recall treatment. What a screwy situation. What's the meaning of "some built in 10" anyway? Where was the cutoff point in 2010? Whatever it was it still makes no sense since my 2011 build wasn't excluded from the recall.
The doc you posted shows it was warranty work... Perhaps as a goodwill gesture by the dealership? It doesn't say anything about a recall. I've had other vehicles serviced for recalls and the documentation references the specific recall number. Do you have anything with a specific recall number you could post?
The doc you posted shows it was warranty work... Perhaps as a goodwill gesture by the dealership? It doesn't say anything about a recall. I've had other vehicles serviced for recalls and the documentation references the specific recall number. Do you have anything with a specific recall number you could post?
All I can tell you is that my service advisor told me the HPFP was a recall item and therefore no charge. I know him well and he would have told me if it was a goodwill gesture. Why this dealership chose to call it "warranty" instead of "recall" I don't know. Again, my car was well out of warranty and CPO but my Fidelity policy was never involved so this was not warranty related in any way. So I'm afraid I don't have a good answer to your question other than referring back to the service advisor's word that it was a recall item that my 2011 built car qualified for.
When I purchased my 2009 used with 26K miles, I took it to a dealer for a check over, fluid changes etc.. and specifically, I wanted to know about the high pressure fuel pump..... they said it was already changed out.... they could tell by looking at it. They told me dealers just changed them out for a particular production run when the owners brought them in for routine service..... I believe it was all 2009s up to when they put in the new design.. don't when what year that was. I don't believe this was a formal recall.... at least it does not show as a formal recall on cars.com and the other websites that provide this data. I know Honda, many years ago, did not like publishing formal recalls to keep their reputation clean and once some work was done, would put a red or green dot somewhere in the engine bay.
Anywho..... just my opinion.... at some point we own these cars and the dealers/factory have nothing to do with it. A fuel pump is a pump and they will fail in time according to some probability model. I think it is more than reasonable that we own our 11 year old cars, regardless of the mileage.
My 2009 4s, 90 000 km (build date November 2008) is in the shop getting HPFP replaced. Did some research and was told HPFP was replaced under Recall WB08 back in 2012 when car was at 7000 km under previous owner, so this will be number 3.
My 2009 4s, 90 000 km (build date November 2008) is in the shop getting HPFP replaced. Did some research and was told HPFP was replaced under Recall WB08 back in 2012 when car was at 7000 km under previous owner, so this will be number 3.
05-19-2020, 01:39 PM
