COMPARISON: PORSCHE 996 VS VETTE
01-10-2014, 09:59 AM
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01-10-2014, 01:13 PM
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You have to brake LOT later than you do in a front-engine car, then wait until after the apex to get back on the power - but you can transition to full power a lot faster than you can with a front-engine car.
It's about weight transfer and evening out the force loading; if you try to drive a 911 (or an open-wheel racer) the same way as you would drive a 'Vette (or any other front-engine car), you will be slow and the car will seem to have a tendency to "push". Once you learn to use the acceleration capabilities that the rear weight bias gives you, and to use the brakes to even the weight distribution on turn-in, you'll find that it's actually a much more capable setup.
01-10-2014, 02:05 PM
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I've driven both. I'd take a 996 turbo any day over the vette, for driving duties.
If my choice was based on financial considerations, I'd take the vette.
My opinion, of course.
If my choice was based on financial considerations, I'd take the vette.
My opinion, of course.
01-10-2014, 04:18 PM
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chose the 996tt over a vette well how do I say this politically correct?
I didn't want to have to buy a vette and gold chains. With gold increasing so much was easier to just buy a pcar for some extra money
I didn't want to have to buy a vette and gold chains. With gold increasing so much was easier to just buy a pcar for some extra money
01-10-2014, 04:18 PM
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I'm a big fan of both cars. But the Z06 and ZR1 are purposed a bit different than the 996tt. A tt can easily be converted to a more sporty suspension, but stock it was intended to be more of a grand tourer I believe. In terms of the original purpose of the car, a Z06 might be better compared to a GT3, and a ZR1 to a GT2.
The corvettes and 911's are both excellent platforms, and I would be extremely happy with either!
The corvettes and 911's are both excellent platforms, and I would be extremely happy with either!
01-10-2014, 04:50 PM
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01-10-2014, 09:54 PM
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01-10-2014, 10:27 PM
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01-10-2014, 10:34 PM
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Mike,
Another Caterham and 996tt owner here! I started out with C5 Z06's on the track, and love those cars. I switched to 7's because of the same reasons - much cheaper disposables. Then 2 years ago I bought a 996tt, with the intention of having a street car that I could take to the track on occassion. When my Caterham went to the shop to install a sequential transmission, I ended up on the track with the Porsche more often than I intended. I also have just had to do a complete transmission replacement. Ouch! We are putting in a GT3 transmission and getting rid of the AWD, to have the oil cooler. My thoughts are the same as you guys - the Z06's were more expensive to track than the Caterham, but much cheaper than the Porsche!
When I get the Porsche out of the shop, I intend to take it to the track only on rare occasions, and then to drive it easy. It is set up extremely well for the track, with forged internals, all the power mods including 3076's, Motons, bushings and arms, roll bar, GT3 sport seats, etc. Just about everything in the drivetrain has been replaced recently, so it is in fantastic shape. But it has destroyed my racing budget for the past two years, and if it breaks again I will have to stop racing. For this year, I am renting a Boxster and running spec Boxster with POC.
Other than the cost of replacing parts for these cars, the other lesson I've learned is that if you track a 700 hp car much, it is going to be so hard on the drivetrain and brakes that regularly rebuilding the drivetrain is inevitable. At some point I may lighten the car and devote it to the track. It is awfully fun to blow by the heavily modded GTR's on the straights, and hang with most cars in the corners. But it costs a lot to do so!
Justin
Another Caterham and 996tt owner here! I started out with C5 Z06's on the track, and love those cars. I switched to 7's because of the same reasons - much cheaper disposables. Then 2 years ago I bought a 996tt, with the intention of having a street car that I could take to the track on occassion. When my Caterham went to the shop to install a sequential transmission, I ended up on the track with the Porsche more often than I intended. I also have just had to do a complete transmission replacement. Ouch! We are putting in a GT3 transmission and getting rid of the AWD, to have the oil cooler. My thoughts are the same as you guys - the Z06's were more expensive to track than the Caterham, but much cheaper than the Porsche!
When I get the Porsche out of the shop, I intend to take it to the track only on rare occasions, and then to drive it easy. It is set up extremely well for the track, with forged internals, all the power mods including 3076's, Motons, bushings and arms, roll bar, GT3 sport seats, etc. Just about everything in the drivetrain has been replaced recently, so it is in fantastic shape. But it has destroyed my racing budget for the past two years, and if it breaks again I will have to stop racing. For this year, I am renting a Boxster and running spec Boxster with POC.
Other than the cost of replacing parts for these cars, the other lesson I've learned is that if you track a 700 hp car much, it is going to be so hard on the drivetrain and brakes that regularly rebuilding the drivetrain is inevitable. At some point I may lighten the car and devote it to the track. It is awfully fun to blow by the heavily modded GTR's on the straights, and hang with most cars in the corners. But it costs a lot to do so!
Justin
I admire all your rides, they are all great because they fit YOUR needs. They invoke some kind of emotion when you climb in and start up the engine. If they don't, you've got the wrong ride. The connection to your ride should be emotional or we'd all be driving Camry's.
01-11-2014, 06:00 PM
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01-11-2014, 06:20 PM
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The 911 is a rear-engine car. It requires a different driving style to be fast when driving at the limit, just as any car with a rearward weight bias does - which is exactly how every open wheel race car works.
You have to brake LOT later than you do in a front-engine car, then wait until after the apex to get back on the power - but you can transition to full power a lot faster than you can with a front-engine car.
It's about weight transfer and evening out the force loading; if you try to drive a 911 (or an open-wheel racer) the same way as you would drive a 'Vette (or any other front-engine car), you will be slow and the car will seem to have a tendency to "push". Once you learn to use the acceleration capabilities that the rear weight bias gives you, and to use the brakes to even the weight distribution on turn-in, you'll find that it's actually a much more capable setup.
You have to brake LOT later than you do in a front-engine car, then wait until after the apex to get back on the power - but you can transition to full power a lot faster than you can with a front-engine car.
It's about weight transfer and evening out the force loading; if you try to drive a 911 (or an open-wheel racer) the same way as you would drive a 'Vette (or any other front-engine car), you will be slow and the car will seem to have a tendency to "push". Once you learn to use the acceleration capabilities that the rear weight bias gives you, and to use the brakes to even the weight distribution on turn-in, you'll find that it's actually a much more capable setup.
02-25-2014, 10:38 PM
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