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Old 11-18-2006, 12:59 AM
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Well, I think this may be a trend. Another TT owner wanted to post his data. He doesnt post over here but gave permission to do so. Vehicle is 996TT Techart 510 DME, Techart Sport Exhaust w/200cell cats, stock K16's, and a VFlow that works...his words not mine. He only wanted 60-130 so that is all I have but here you go:
run1 60-130 9.52sec 1397.37ft
run2 60-130 9.29sec 1360.90ft
run3 60-130 8.76sec 1286.09ft 1 shift
Temp was 58 degrees. Pretty strong numbers in my opinion
Later in the week, if all goes well there may be some Gallardo,GT3 and Z06 times...hopefully Kevin
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Thanks for posting more data!
A couple of questions as usual...
1- Is the power run posted his 9.29s run?
2- Can you please set the smoothening at 0.2 seconds for the long Gs on the 2 shift run.

This is on 100% stock K16s, running about their limit. Good runs.
Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Jean
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Thanks for posting more data!
A couple of questions as usual...
1- Is the power run posted his 9.29s run?
2- Can you please set the smoothening at 0.2 seconds for the long Gs on the 2 shift run.

This is on 100% stock K16s, running about their limit. Good runs.
Thank you.
Jean, it was late and yes the smoothing was on the 2 shift and not the 1 shift graph... you dont miss much. I also didnt notice the G spike around 9 sec so here is a new graph taken out to 133mph to see what occured. It looks like he had trouble finding a gear and then popped the clutch or rev limiter... What do you think?This is the 9.29 sec run. Kevin
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I have to say, the ease of using the Driftbox must help in getting people to do these tests - good on you

These runs have quite a big slope don't they ?

The first one is 22ft/7metres and the second 50ft/15metres - this is going to give much better times isn't it ?
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Originally Posted by TB993tt
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I have to say, the ease of using the Driftbox must help in getting people to do these tests - good on you

These runs have quite a big slope don't they ?

The first one is 22ft/7metres and the second 50ft/15metres - this is going to give much better times isn't it ?
22 ft and 50 ft over a quartermile area a big slope? C'mon, this will have absolutely no effect. Where should he go, the Bonneville Salt Flats? What's next, wind conditions? Was he up or down wind? Funny I never hear this kind of scrutiny from anyone when an all knowing magazine posts any acceleration numbers. That is gospel. You guys kill me. The scrutiny and skepticism over here is really laughable.

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Originally Posted by TB993tt
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I have to say, the ease of using the Driftbox must help in getting people to do these tests - good on you

These runs have quite a big slope don't they ?

The first one is 22ft/7metres and the second 50ft/15metres - this is going to give much better times isn't it ?
Toby... I dont have the knowledge like Jean to claim how much of a benefit it is. If you want to split hairs yes.. it is downhill. To put this in perspective... ALL of my data is run at a sanctioned IHRA or NHRA dragstrips.... and in those 1/4 mile tracks my 60-130 takes from 1166- 1240ft depending on number of shifts...and the slope deviation is 17 ft downhill. ...AT A SANCTIONED TRACK!!! I think you are barking up the wrong tree. You complain no one posts data and now you are questioning 50ft deviation over almost 1400 ft... Come on. Talk to Jean see what he says... you are starting to sound like a hypocrite... no offense.Kevin
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Sorry gents, I'm not trying to be sceptical - just thought a 50ft drop sounded a lot, I guess I sould pay more attention to the length of the run -50ft on 1360 is not that much of a slope ?
I don't see what is hypocritical ?? maybe hyper-critical - for that I apologise
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Originally Posted by TB993tt
maybe hyper-critical -
TB, if you have ever been to Pennsylvania...you would be wondering how the heck he found a spot as flat as this!! Off Topic... we need some EVO volunteers. Kevin
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Originally Posted by 9Eleven
That is gospel. You guys kill me. The scrutiny and skepticism over here is really laughable.
9Eleven this is a tech forum. And your comments are totally unwarranted and not welcome.

This is not skepticism, this is debate and discussion, there is a fine line, no one knows the owner nor the car, so what's your point?. The 55feet difference is almost a 4% slope, which is quite important, not that it will make a huge difference other than in a racing environment, but could be a couple of tenths.

Kevin if your intention is not to share so that we can learn and discuss let me know.

IMO, this 2 shift run has about 1/2 second still to gain. Notice what is happening at the end of the run, seems like a misshift or clutch slippage or sth. else. I think it is a 9s run quite easily.
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Originally Posted by Jean

Kevin if your intention is not to share so that we can learn and discuss let me know.
Point taken. Kevin
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Originally Posted by Jean
9Eleven this is a tech forum. And your comments are totally unwarranted and not welcome.

This is not skepticism, this is debate and discussion, there is a fine line, no one knows the owner nor the car, so what's your point?. The 55feet difference is almost a 4% slope, which is quite important, not that it will make a huge difference other than in a racing environment, but could be a couple of tenths.

Kevin if your intention is not to share so that we can learn and discuss let me know.

IMO, this 2 shift run has about 1/2 second still to gain. Notice what is happening at the end of the run, seems like a misshift or clutch slippage or sth. else. I think it is a 9s run quite easily.
Jean, do you really believe 22 ft or even 50 ft over a quarter mile area reason for concern? I commend him for finding a surface area that flat for that long of an area in PA. You call it debate, I find it somewhat condescending and disingenuous.
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I answered it above, a 4% slope, and that is certainly something to consider, yes.

Condescending? You can't be serious, no one even knows the owner.


I also commend the owner and thank him for sharing, as well as KPG, but that is besides the point, the only criticism that I see is the one you made of other posters.
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Originally Posted by TB993tt
These runs have quite a big slope don't they ?
The first one is 22ft/7metres and the second 50ft/15metres - this is going to give much better times isn't it ?
These questions IMHO are disingenuous and condescending, "quite a big slope " "give much better times"...regardless of the owner's identity. And IMHO, a 22 foot and a 50 foot slope would have little or no effect on his time. What if he were travelling into a 30 plus mile an hour head wind? The northeast had some serious storms over the past few days. Sound a little disingenuous? Perfect and sterile conditions are never a realistic possiblity. As long as the numbers are reasonable (slope conditions) they should be verifiable, IMHO.

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This was info posted from my car... I am upgrading my car this winter hopefully to Kevins stage 3 setup.... I just wanted before and after charts... Also my cars max boost is .9bar I have seen a 1.0 spike once

To give you guys a bit more info... I did these 3 pulls back to back..... then the rain came so I was not able to do anymore pulls....

My car does have a techart front bumper and a GT-2 spoiler so I am not sure if this hurt or helped at all.....

Again this was more for my own knowledge

Thanks is in order to Kevin (KPG) for letting me use his drift box....
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Originally Posted by scotty slc
This was info posted from my car... I am upgrading my car this winter hopefully to Kevins stage 3 setup.... I just wanted before and after charts... Also my cars max boost is .9bar I have seen a 1.0 spike once

To give you guys a bit more info... I did these 3 pulls back to back..... then the rain came so I was not able to do anymore pulls....

My car does have a techart front bumper and a GT-2 spoiler so I am not sure if this hurt or helped at all.....

Again this was more for my own knowledge

Thanks is in order to Kevin (KPG) for letting me use his drift box....
Impressive numbers. Thanks for your time and effort.


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