Tire choices.. PS-2 vs. NT-01 (or any other R-compound)
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Never run the AD08 (doesn't come in big enough rears for the GT2) but loved the AD07. The AD07 was over 2 secs a lap faster @ Sebring than the PS2 in back to back testing 996GT3. ( the drawback to the AD07 was it was horrible in the wet ) The AD08 is marginally faster in the dry than the AD07 but much better in the wet. Michelin PS2 is still probably the best wet tire that comes in Porsche sizes.
I test a lot of street tires for the One Lap of America.
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Thanks to 85Gold (Peter) who pointed out to me that due to the 295/35/18 (instead of 295/30/18) size of NT-05, the difference between the front and rear might be too great to have ABS issues. So NT-05 is probably out.
AD-08 is available in the stock size, however. It is probably the way to go at the moment.
AD-08 is available in the stock size, however. It is probably the way to go at the moment.
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general note: you can't compare treadwear ratings directly from one manufacturer to another, meaning a Yoko 150 treadwear rating may not be the same as a Pirelli 150, etc. Use them as a general guideline.
Forget PS2. Lame shoulder cap tread design that wears out fast, even with plenty of camber.
AD08 for street/wet track. Wet track demands your full attention. Focus on being smooth.
Nitto NT-01 for dry track (when you're ready for an R-comp). These tires will make some noise when they are about to let go. I got them squealing yesterday under hard braking as well (a little chirp here and there). Very communicative tire, very progressive release when they let go. This is the only tire I'd recommend to someone for their first taste in R-comps. Great $$$ value too! Nice shoulder cap design so they stand up to much abuse. I really like these tires. Only thing lacking is the mighty grip of Hoosier R6.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Forget PS2. Lame shoulder cap tread design that wears out fast, even with plenty of camber.
AD08 for street/wet track. Wet track demands your full attention. Focus on being smooth.
Nitto NT-01 for dry track (when you're ready for an R-comp). These tires will make some noise when they are about to let go. I got them squealing yesterday under hard braking as well (a little chirp here and there). Very communicative tire, very progressive release when they let go. This is the only tire I'd recommend to someone for their first taste in R-comps. Great $$$ value too! Nice shoulder cap design so they stand up to much abuse. I really like these tires. Only thing lacking is the mighty grip of Hoosier R6.
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255/35/18 & 315/30/18
e88 wheels oem offsets
5mm spacers front
3mm spacers rear.
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102mm height
3 camber (rotated struts and 3mm shims)
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The Nittos have been pretty fast , and were nice and sticky/fast NEW, the R888's exact opposite!
I like the NT01's the best out of both, still have a few sets of R888's and prefer the Nitto's for my street driving and closer track events where I can drive too.. For the big boy tracks though? Hoosiers or Dunlop slicks, really is just no comparison and sometimes has me so underwhelmed coming from an even I did with r6's to then running anything else lol
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I really like the 888's and never driven the nittos but its surprizing that nitto would outperform a tyre of the company that owns them and is placed below in marketing.
A comment from Andrie Hartanto of prima racing who raced both.
"The difference in the R888 and NT01 is sidewall construction. R888 is much stiffer while NT01 is more like RA1.
I tested both tires back to back. Me personally like the feel of R888 better. But lap times and setup is nearly identical. I can tell you just that the R888 outperform the nittos in the rain.
The difference in the R888 and NT01 is sidewall construction. R888 is much stiffer while NT01 is more like RA1.
I tested both tires back to back. Me personally like the feel of R888 better. But dry lap times and setup is nearly identical."
I Wish i could try the nittos myself.
John
A comment from Andrie Hartanto of prima racing who raced both.
"The difference in the R888 and NT01 is sidewall construction. R888 is much stiffer while NT01 is more like RA1.
I tested both tires back to back. Me personally like the feel of R888 better. But lap times and setup is nearly identical. I can tell you just that the R888 outperform the nittos in the rain.
The difference in the R888 and NT01 is sidewall construction. R888 is much stiffer while NT01 is more like RA1.
I tested both tires back to back. Me personally like the feel of R888 better. But dry lap times and setup is nearly identical."
I Wish i could try the nittos myself.
John
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I really like the 888's and never driven the nittos but its surprizing that nitto would outperform a tyre of the company that owns them and is placed below in marketing.
A comment from Andrie Hartanto of prima racing who raced both.
"The difference in the R888 and NT01 is sidewall construction. R888 is much stiffer while NT01 is more like RA1.
I tested both tires back to back. Me personally like the feel of R888 better. But lap times and setup is nearly identical. I can tell you just that the R888 outperform the nittos in the rain.
The difference in the R888 and NT01 is sidewall construction. R888 is much stiffer while NT01 is more like RA1.
I tested both tires back to back. Me personally like the feel of R888 better. But dry lap times and setup is nearly identical."
I Wish i could try the nittos myself.
John
A comment from Andrie Hartanto of prima racing who raced both.
"The difference in the R888 and NT01 is sidewall construction. R888 is much stiffer while NT01 is more like RA1.
I tested both tires back to back. Me personally like the feel of R888 better. But lap times and setup is nearly identical. I can tell you just that the R888 outperform the nittos in the rain.
The difference in the R888 and NT01 is sidewall construction. R888 is much stiffer while NT01 is more like RA1.
I tested both tires back to back. Me personally like the feel of R888 better. But dry lap times and setup is nearly identical."
I Wish i could try the nittos myself.
John
Nobody seems to have that issue with the NT-01's. They're just like RA-1's in that they're faster and faster and are ultimately the fastest just before they cord.
After I sold my Porsche last year I started tracking the M3 again, pulled a 3yr old set of RA-1's out of the basement and went as quick as I've ever gone in that car on those old tires.