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Old 07-30-2006, 03:27 AM
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What tires are you guys using for the track?
I caled Bob Woodman to order Pirelli Slicks and Kathy old me the front size is currently not available and she didn't have a date from Pireli when they will be here.
I was considering using Dunlops but they are more $$ and I don't like them as much.
What do you guys think?

Once you use slicks it's hard to go back to Hoosiers or MSPC!!
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Hoosiers are great
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You dont need slicks. Car cant handle slicks
Old 07-30-2006, 06:02 PM
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I agree, I doubt there are more than a handful of people on here fast enough to properly drive street tires to their limits of adhesion, let alone r-comps, let alone racing slicks.
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If you run slicks on your car run Michelin. They are expensive, however they are evolving development with the Cup car program. They are great when new and only go off slightly. Where the Pirelli's go off a lot after 3 heat cycles (like 2 sec. per lap on a 1:30 lap). So while they may be cheaper, in the long run they will not. You can also run Yokohamas, which will be the cheapest, however the performance is not up to Michelin and they will go off like the Pirelli's. Finally the Dunlops are good tires, not quite up to Michelin, but still very good and consistent.

With the price of MPSC's at this point slicks are not much more expensive, however they will wear out qucker.

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I hear that you have to run the 650 instead of the normal Cup 680 rear Michelin on a GT3 because of the ABS, is this true?

I run Michelins since everyone else in GT3 Cups do, but I would also recommend the Yokohama because they are inexpensive, have good wear, good speed and you can choose from 4 different compounds. Just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by GT3 Nut
Once you use slicks it's hard to go back to Hoosiers or MSPC!!
So true, should be a warning label on the tires.
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http://www.jdmotorsports.com/tiresales.aspx
Michelin slicks are actually cheaper than the cups. I believe I paid $1042 for the last set. I used the same size as the 993 cup cars with the S8a compound in the back and S7A in the front. I have a set in the garage and can get the sizes if you need them.
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Originally Posted by cosmos
You dont need slicks. Car cant handle slicks


that depends on so many variables... we know nothing of what has been done to the car, or his experience.


as for me - michelin, and if not, then dunlop
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Originally Posted by AeroGT3RedWing
I agree, I doubt there are more than a handful of people on here fast enough to properly drive street tires to their limits of adhesion, let alone r-comps, let alone racing slicks.


i disagree! i have raced against several (at least a handful - and i only hang out in the southeast) that have been right there on both r's and slicks. i can say this with relative assurety as i know where i stand in relation to pobst and lazarro - and where they are to me. there are several people driving this car that are quite talented. honestly - don't you think it either a- forces you to be or b - you wreck it (some bc they are good and close and it happens some times anyway) or c- traded it in on a turbo and don't even read this anymore. of the guys i know that have moved on from this car to cups, they are usually right there at the top of cup drivers... that didn't happen by accident.
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Ok, so lets ask. What have you changed regarding the suspension??
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One thing putting a set of slicks on the car shows you is how soft the suspensions really is in comparison to a Cup car. At first, I thought the car was slower on slicks because it was impossible to rotate. After a while I found out you just have to push it harder and it will slide.
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Cant use slicks with the stock suspension....I mean you CAN, but its not helping. This has been discussed over and over again. You can do a search and find the posts.
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"You CAN" but, I don't know if it's much faster and definately not worth it considering the # of heat cycles.
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This was discussed before as to whether the stock suspension can handle the G loads that the slicks are capable of generating. The coils seem to bind under the loads and does not allow the suspesnion to work as it was deisgned to work.


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