Titanium lug nut group buy?
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Originally Posted by db_gt3
Exactly! POUNDS difference between one tire or another. I'm not trying to give you a hard time quartermile, its just not my thing and I personally feel the money would be better spent on other things. They are overpriced; but alas, some have enough money for anything they can think of spending it on. I am not one of them...yet!
I'll be at Willow on thursday, hope to see you there; lug bolts and all!
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I'll be at Willow on thursday, hope to see you there; lug bolts and all!
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I think once you get the weight saving bug every little bit of extra weight is annoying. Just to give you an example I already have a carbon fiber hood but it bothers me that the hinge is not Aluminum yet... saves about 1-2lbs. There are many such items that although individualy insignificant, add up to a hundred pounds or more ... ala GT3 RS.
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Mike, did you already order the bolts?
I actually need to order them. The factory lug bolts are very expensive. I'm going to replace my factory ones with these Titanium ones. Then I have to cut the collars on my stock ones to install them in the custom longer bolts for my BBS Mag wheels, because I don't want to switch to studs.
I actually need to order them. The factory lug bolts are very expensive. I'm going to replace my factory ones with these Titanium ones. Then I have to cut the collars on my stock ones to install them in the custom longer bolts for my BBS Mag wheels, because I don't want to switch to studs.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Mike, did you already order the bolts?
I actually need to order them. The factory lug bolts are very expensive. I'm going to replace my factory ones with these Titanium ones. Then I have to cut the collars on my stock ones to install them in the custom longer bolts for my BBS Mag wheels, because I don't want to switch to studs.
I actually need to order them. The factory lug bolts are very expensive. I'm going to replace my factory ones with these Titanium ones. Then I have to cut the collars on my stock ones to install them in the custom longer bolts for my BBS Mag wheels, because I don't want to switch to studs.
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Michael, I'm still interested too at the $380 price, but not at $600.
How many folks actually said yes?
It's kind of a pain that the thread got clogged up with people saying no!
How many folks actually said yes?
It's kind of a pain that the thread got clogged up with people saying no!
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Originally Posted by macfly
Michael, I'm still interested too at the $380 price, but not at $600.
How many folks actually said yes?
It's kind of a pain that the thread got clogged up with people saying no!
How many folks actually said yes?
It's kind of a pain that the thread got clogged up with people saying no!
Looks like we have about 8 people so far. I know Larry really wants a set, but he just doesn't want to admit it
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I know Larry really wants a set, but he just doesn't want to admit it ![hiha](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
Now if they were titanium screw-in studs and lug nuts.
Actually, I am going to switch over to screw-in studs for ease of wheel changing, etc.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Mike, did you already order the bolts?
I actually need to order them. The factory lug bolts are very expensive. I'm going to replace my factory ones with these Titanium ones. Then I have to cut the collars on my stock ones to install them in the custom longer bolts for my BBS Mag wheels, because I don't want to switch to studs.
I actually need to order them. The factory lug bolts are very expensive. I'm going to replace my factory ones with these Titanium ones. Then I have to cut the collars on my stock ones to install them in the custom longer bolts for my BBS Mag wheels, because I don't want to switch to studs.
prestigewheel.com
They made me a custom set to go with some spacers I was using, 5$ each.
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just a thought
the PCA and POC require either steel lug nuts or stock (for the car) lug bolts.
Me i need to put in my stud conversion kit (with light-o open top steel lug nuts)
My wedding ring is Ti - though HUGE weight savings over the stock gold one - does that count
the PCA and POC require either steel lug nuts or stock (for the car) lug bolts.
Me i need to put in my stud conversion kit (with light-o open top steel lug nuts)
My wedding ring is Ti - though HUGE weight savings over the stock gold one - does that count
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Didnt I already explain to you that your hood isnt really carbon fiber?
Doesnt it weigh 10 lbs or so? More like fiberglass with "carbon look". Or just a wet lay up carbon/fabric/resin contraption. Dont get me started. You say you got six guys interested in paying $600 a set for lug bolts? Why not get six more guys, pool that money and get a tool made to cure genuine pre-preg hoods with? I will source the composites house to do the lay-up and run the project through in exchange for two hoods and the rights to make as many more as I want off the tool.
You would save about 30-40 times more weight than you would with the lug bolts.
I'm serious.
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Doesnt it weigh 10 lbs or so? More like fiberglass with "carbon look". Or just a wet lay up carbon/fabric/resin contraption. Dont get me started. You say you got six guys interested in paying $600 a set for lug bolts? Why not get six more guys, pool that money and get a tool made to cure genuine pre-preg hoods with? I will source the composites house to do the lay-up and run the project through in exchange for two hoods and the rights to make as many more as I want off the tool.
You would save about 30-40 times more weight than you would with the lug bolts.
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I'm serious.
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Originally Posted by db_gt3
Didnt I already explain to you that your hood isnt really carbon fiber?
Doesnt it weigh 10 lbs or so? More like fiberglass with "carbon look". Or just a wet lay up carbon/fabric/resin contraption. Dont get me started. You say you got six guys interested in paying $600 a set for lug bolts? Why not get six more guys, pool that money and get a tool made to cure genuine pre-preg hoods with? I will source the composites house to do the lay-up and run the project through in exchange for two hoods and the rights to make as many more as I want off the tool.
You would save about 30-40 times more weight than you would with the lug bolts.
I'm serious.
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Doesnt it weigh 10 lbs or so? More like fiberglass with "carbon look". Or just a wet lay up carbon/fabric/resin contraption. Dont get me started. You say you got six guys interested in paying $600 a set for lug bolts? Why not get six more guys, pool that money and get a tool made to cure genuine pre-preg hoods with? I will source the composites house to do the lay-up and run the project through in exchange for two hoods and the rights to make as many more as I want off the tool.
You would save about 30-40 times more weight than you would with the lug bolts.
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I'm serious.
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Well, it weighs 20lbs less than stock and will be painted along with the carbon decklid so what difference does it make how it was made? How about a CF door panel like the one on the Challenge Stradales? That's like a 30lbs savings on both doors. TRG makes one but it's ugly and made to accomodate a full cage.
Bad photo, but you get the idea:
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Yeah, once you paint it the weight savings will be marginal. But the carbon fiber panels on the Stradale are honest-to-goodness cured-in-an-autoclave pre-preg panels; and that makes them special
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The TRG stuff is most likely just more fiberglass stuff.
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The TRG stuff is most likely just more fiberglass stuff.
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Originally Posted by db_gt3
Oh yeah, I have a lot of experience with aerospace and automotive hardware and those are WAY overpriced. If I thought it was worth a look I could source them at less than one third that price; but it's not worth it, so I won't bother. At $380.00 you are paying mostly for the graphics and a nice finish.
db is right. I've got a connection at a large machine shop that works with titanium. If someone can get me the specs (or a rough estimate) for the lug bolts, I can get you guys a quote on having them custom made. I bet it's a lot cheaper than what you guys are looking at spending right now. All we'd need is the cash and a bolt to pattern it after and we'd be all set.
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I would be hesitant using some random hardware/vendors on this fast of a car. Presumably Poggipolini has done some R&D because they source this stuff to Ferrari and F1 teams. HRE guys use Poggipolini hardware on the Competition wheels and had problems with other vendors. db regarding the hood .. I am only painting one side .... may be even skip primer .. how much weight can that possibly add?