83stef

Hello Guys

I am new
I wanted to share my experience with you :

I own a 996 C2 year 2000
114000 km

I know the problems of reliability of this model for the engine,
Then to prevent this problem IMS FAIL
I have on the crankcase a magnetic plug AND
I performs an oil change and drain
Every 3000 km, With oil filter check.

Everything went well for 2 years,
Last week at this check up
I found particles of iron on the magnet
And in the filter oil...

I am in the process of organizing its transport
To go to the garage for diag
I will keep you informed....
If my experience to serve others.

My only worry is that the oil is filled
Of small iron particle
Which are going all over the engine ...

Botsy67

It's a good plan you have there, changing and checking the oil regularly, btw I am doing the same on my '00 996. Do you have pics to share with us on the particles in the filter and Mag-plug? I think we all want to see what they look like and how big they are, for reference and that could help others in similar situations. Thanks for sharing your experiences... Hope it's nothing serious yet, Cheers.

dporto

If your oil looks like brown metal flake paint, I think you've got a problem...

6L6

You are proceeding correctly. Please keep us posted!

Bill

Flat6 Innovations

Maybe its not the IMSB, and it looks like you caught it before it scattered parts..

I have said it many times before.... Just paying attention to the oil and filter is better than nothing, but it simply is not enough.

shawn_nj

Jake, any chance you have a writeup somewhere of the additional proactive stuff that you are referencing above, ie stuff you think owners should be doing above oil changes and lab testing?

dgjks6

You did everything right. The point of your actions was not to prevent an IMS failure, but to pick it up early enough that you didn't have a catastrophic failure. Worst case scenario, you still saved yourself thousands of dollars.

TonyTwoBags

page 1 http://www.flat6innovations.com/inde...l=&limitstart=

page 2 http://www.flat6innovations.com/inde...owall=&start=1

First you need to identify what these are and then research these using tools like this website, Google and online forums that you can access through the "links" page of this site here. http://www.flat6innovations.com/comp...tent/article/2 After you have a thorough understanding of the failures associated with the engine, you can understand our recommendations listed below much better.

Things to do: Upgrade the IMS bearing within the engine. This is first and foremost in overall importance as the IMS Bearing failure is the #1 issue that has killed so many M96 engines.

We are the Inventors of the IMS Solution, read more about it at www.theimssolution.com. Then have the same hands that developed it, install the technology into your engine, right here at Flat 6 Innovations.

Read more about the IMS Retrofit procedure and IMS bearing failures here http://www.flat6innovations.com/serv...haft-retrofit-

Replace the water pump, water pumps can fail silently and lead to cracked heads! Replace the water pump no matter how many miles are on your car, as time in service kills the plastic impeller blades of the pump, not miles!! Water pumps are cheap insurance, if a water pump creates a cracked head and intermixed coolant and oil exist the costs can be over 15,000.00 for repair

-Replace vario-cam wear pads and the 4th and 5th timing chains at 40K miles if your car is an 01 or earlier 996 or an 02 or earlier Boxster.

- Replace the engine's Air/ oil separator, its a cheap part that can keep you from going up in a cloud of smoke while cruising down the highway at 55 MPH.

- Don't become caught up in anyone's ploy to dictate the engine oil thats best for your engine. Over time other oils have been developed that we have found to be more superior than what the mmanufacturer would have recommended when your car was new. We have a biased opinion on this topic, so please don't ask us for an oil recommendation! We have worked with Joe Gibbs Driven Racing Oil to develop an application specific offering of engine oil just for the M96/M97 engine. Its called "DT40", so just buy it and know that it solved many problems in the development of it. Since 2006 we have worked to develop the best engine oil for our engines and until 2012 this wasn't offered to the general public. Each and EVERY Flat 6 Innovations engine is required to utilize this oil. The controversy related to other oil recommendations is something my company avoids completely. When you buy a new Porsche, they recommend Mobil 1, but when you buy my engine I'll tell you to avoid that offering completely.

- If your engine is more than three years old it probably has dirty timing chain tensioners, don't use engine flushes to solve them, have the tensioners removed, cleaned or replaced.

- Don't ignore engine noises or oil leaks, no matter how small they may be. Engines are not noisy, if they are noisy they have issues that could lead to catastrophic failure if ignored.

- Choose a proper facility to care for your Porsche and it's engine that is often misunderstood and not cared or properly

-Remove the engine's sump plate and inspect it for debris every 10,000 miles.. Also use oil analysis to help create trend data concerning the life of your engine.

- If you think you are having an engine failure STOP!! Shut the engine off and do not attempt to re-start it without it first being evaluated by an M96 engine specialist. Just because a shop works on Porsches, doesn't mean they are qualified to work on or that they understand your M96. Do not attempt to drive the car home or to a shop to avoid a tow bill, because doing so can cost you 15,000.00+ if the failure goes tick..tick..BOOM! Many of these engines are "driven to death" by owners who wish to save a 2-300.00 tow bill and end up costing themselves over ten thousand dollars or more. THERE ARE NO "GOOD" ENGINE NOISES!

-If you research the issues, update the components and understand the symptoms you can avoid catastrophic failure and enjoy your Porsche in the way it was intended for years.

-Don't ever think that "it can't happen to me" because it can and it does. We know what the strengths and weaknesses of this engine are from dealing with the same issues over and over again and seeing the same failures so often that we can diagnose failures over thephone in most cases. We'd be happy to help create a pre-failure course of action for your Porsche and apply updates as required for your year and model.

When its too late; it really is too late.

Jake Raby

President, Raby Enterprises Inc.

shawn_nj

MUCH APPRECIATED! Thanks!

Woodman71

I read stuff like this and wonder why I ever even bought the damn thing.

Then I go for a drive and it all goes out the window.

tokika

exactly what I was thinking!

TonyTwoBags

Same.. thought I was the smart kid on the block after buying mine with a good ims plan. Slowly realized that wasn't the case, but the reward has been more than anticipated. If I get hit by a bus tomorrow, this'll be a bright spot in my time on this blue ball.

Flat6 Innovations

Thanks for reminding me of how stupid it is to write things like that.
It'll be deleted by Monday, along with everything else that I have written that can make you "wonder why you bought the damn thing".

So much for sharing advanced technical information.

Edit: To hell with it, I killed the links tonight.

TonyTwoBags

I think engines failing left & right is the issue, not educational content posted on a maintenance thread.

edit: jeebus, someone posts your content with accurate credits & you take the page down? You understand the problem with 996 buyers is ignorance, not fear, right? Incredibly obtuse/shallow perspective.

dporto

^^Hahahahahah^^ But what about "The Book" ?

"edit: jeebus, someone posts your content with accurate credits & you take the page down? You understand the problem with 996 buyers is ignorance, not fear, right? Incredibly obtuse/shallow perspective."

^^I think it's because when he writes something like that (Trying to be helpful) he gets accused of being a self serving/hyping/promoting fear monger - because that's how people react to that type of information...