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Old 06-22-2022, 11:06 AM
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Sure.

Plenty of ways to handle service procedures. My personal preference is to have the engine dropped if replacing these items for one simple reason. It gives me and my indy a more comprehensive view to see what you have and what in addition should be replaced or watched closely.

Comes down to your preference and objectives. But yeah, unfortunately there is always a cost one way or another with a 20 year old classic sports car.

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Old 07-05-2022, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RRTEC
I just completed the install today. I will say, the instructions are basically useless. You are installing it blind which very easily could lead to installing it wrong. It also leads to lack of confidence in the installers part.

Its the little things.. but overall with gaps in the instructions filled in it went in easy.

Gaps I found:

1- instructions are from before they started including the updated flange, bolts and before they included the punch and end caps.

2- the flange and stud are different than the photos

3- the bearing tool doesn't technically bottom out... the bearing does

4- the center shaft/stud has about 1mm of fore and aft movement before you tighten it up. This is normal. Do not take the bearing out or lose sleep.

5- instructions don't really talk too much about the size of the hole you punch in the IMS cover.. it says small which is relative. I basically punched it until I felt there was a hole.. but that sucks. I have no idea how big or small the hole should be. The punch should be more refined to only allow the correct size hole.

6- thread locker install specs are misleading.

That is about it.... I feel that overall the install went well. Fingers crossed that it stands the test of time.
Seven years later, how has your EPS IMS bearing held up?
Old 07-05-2022, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HBgreco
Seven years later, how has your EPS IMS bearing held up?
He sold the car back in 2017. And, someone got a killer deal at only $15,650 for a coupe 996. That car is probably worth close $30,000 or more today.

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Old 07-07-2022, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by b3freak
He sold the car back in 2017. And, someone got a killer deal at only $15,650 for a coupe 996. That car is probably worth close $30,000 or more today.

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^^ Assuming the bearing hasn’t given up the ghost^^… 😉
Old 07-07-2022, 09:34 AM
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^^ Assuming the bearing hasn’t given up the ghost^^… 😉
No doubt about it!
Old 10-25-2022, 09:50 PM
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Put the EPS in my 99 986 with 85K and so far its been flawless.
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Originally Posted by dporto
This is not a flame…Your use of the word “Solution” in “it doesn’t matter who’s solution you choose”, is misleading, confusing, and just plain wrong. The fact is that there is only one “IMS Solution”. It is the only “do it once and you’re done” IMS bearing that’s available, and it’s patented. So yes, it does matter who’s “solution” you choose…
There are more solutions for the IMS problem out there that don't have the name "Solution" in their commercial name, but are also patented. DOF (direct oil feed) by TuneRS is one of them
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Originally Posted by parris
There are more solutions for the IMS problem out there that don't have the name "Solution" in their commercial name, but are also patented. DOF (direct oil feed) by TuneRS is one of them
Yep. With all the imsb products available, seems that the probability of imsb failure has pretty much become a low probability event.

Now if we can just get new buyers to scope the bores and check the service records to see whats been serviced and when before buying we can eliminate the bore scoring issues and typical failures that hit the RL airwaves.

But what will we have to talk about?

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Originally Posted by GC996
But what will we have to talk about?
The headlights that won LeMans, obviously.
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Old 10-28-2022, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by parris
There are more solutions for the IMS problem out there that don't have the name "Solution" in their commercial name, but are also patented. DOF (direct oil feed) by TuneRS is one of them
Is that the one that has you bore out the crankcase if you have the large non- serviceable bearing? Oh yeah, that’s a “solution”… 🙄😏
Old 10-29-2022, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by dporto
Is that the one that has you bore out the crankcase if you have the large non- serviceable bearing? Oh yeah, that’s a “solution”… 🙄😏
I don’t think it’s the same. TuneRS and Vertex are different shops and geographically about 3hrs from each other, I’m not 100% but to my knowledge Vertex bores the flange…. Ask me how I know.
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Originally Posted by TheChunkNorris
I don’t think it’s the same. TuneRS and Vertex are different shops and geographically about 3hrs from each other, I’m not 100% but to my knowledge Vertex bores the flange…. Ask me how I know.
Ugh… sorry to hear that 😩
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My targa has the TuneRS bearing. There's a notch cut in the edge of the bell housing to allow the oil line through to the IMSB flange. No crankcase holes.
Old 10-29-2022, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dporto
Ugh… sorry to hear that 😩
Yeah but I do try to spread the word, in general TuneRS has a good rep down here and also the dry ice cleaning place. I don’t particularly care to fight with people in regards to the bearing but EPS makes a good one and the Vertex bore install isn’t the best choice.

With all that said I can see why people can get annoyed with LN calling their product the “solution” when there are many variables and stipulations to what’s considered a proper candidate…. It should be absolute. Like @GC996 said earlier, we’re at a point that the IMS failure shouldn’t be a thing anymore with all the fantastic options available.
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Originally Posted by TheChunkNorris
Yeah but I do try to spread the word, in general TuneRS has a good rep down here and also the dry ice cleaning place. I don’t particularly care to fight with people in regards to the bearing but EPS makes a good one and the Vertex bore install isn’t the best choice.

With all that said I can see why people can get annoyed with LN calling their product the “solution” when there are many variables and stipulations to what’s considered a proper candidate…. It should be absolute. Like @GC996 said earlier, we’re at a point that the IMS failure shouldn’t be a thing anymore with all the fantastic options available.
Yea, for 20 years the IMS problem has existed and yet we still have hoards of people who deny the problem... .. Hell there is a whole Facebook page/groups of thousands that was only created to deny the existence of the problem,,,lol.. But the more they have denied, the more people show up posting failed bearings..lol
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