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Old 07-19-2016 | 08:55 AM
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Was quite a day yesterday. After TB/ICV cleaning and spark plug change, changed oil filter and drained oil. Installed my LN Engineering Billet Oil Plug that I have had for many years and many oil changes and began tightening it up. Well, then this happened and I have no explanation for it:


How come it is that I have used this over and over again and it failed? I will be buying a new one and thank goodness it was simple enough to remove. Thankfully I had a new stock aluminum oil drain plug I could just pop in until the next oil change. BTW - I have never found anything sticking to the magnet but it is good to know it is in there.
Old 07-19-2016 | 09:12 AM
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I had one that broke too.....realized I was putting the same amount of torque as the stock drain plug. The LN plug uses about 20 lbs less torque.
Old 07-19-2016 | 10:03 AM
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It was strange. I had just barely gotten to the point of getting to the crush washer and tightening when I felt a give and thought ohh no. So it was not over torque, it just gave way. Despite that, like I said, I'll be ordering a new one from LN. I like the magnet and the larger bit hole. Maybe they have done some re-engineering because on the website they say the bit size is 8mm (like original drain plug) versus my broken one at 10mm. Seems to me that would make for a stronger head/shoulder area. We'll see....
Old 07-19-2016 | 10:56 AM
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Sorry to hear that you had a drain plug fail. Yes, we've redesigned the original version - first to go back to 8mm hex as many were torquing beyond the 19 ft/lb we specify and another revision to make it compatible with 09 and later 9A1 engines.

That said, so few ever have problems, I would just advise you to contact LN directly and we'll warranty the drain plug and ship out a replacement no charge for your trouble.
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Old 07-19-2016 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles Navarro
Sorry to hear that you had a drain plug fail. Yes, we've redesigned the original version - first to go back to 8mm hex as many were torquing beyond the 19 ft/lb we specify and another revision to make it compatible with 09 and later 9A1 engines.

That said, so few ever have problems, I would just advise you to contact LN directly and we'll warranty the drain plug and ship out a replacement no charge for your trouble.
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Old 07-19-2016 | 11:31 AM
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I've had mine for six years, so it's probably of the first generation. I understand that nothing lasts forever so I have an OEM plug standing by just in case. I would have no problem buying a replacement if/when the time comes. It's a small price to pay for some peace of mind.
Old 07-19-2016 | 12:22 PM
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I've been using these since the first one was sold.. Which went into one of my engines.
No complaints yet, almost a decade later and several hundred units used.

Over torque kills these.
Old 07-19-2016 | 12:57 PM
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Mine failed the same way. Charles mentioned that it was the older version (it came installed on my '99) and had probably been over-torqued at some point. My indie did the first oil change during my "post-purchase inspection" and they probably did not realize it needed to be torqued differently than the factory plug.

Charles offered to replace mine as well, but since I didn't buy it, it didn't seem right to accept it.

Look familiar?
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Awesome Charles! I will contact you at LN. And just for the record, I am in no way disappointed in the billet drain plug and would buy another one in a heartbeat.
Old 07-19-2016 | 01:42 PM
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A torque wrench and following the spec when tightening will prevent this and importantly protect the sump threads .
Old 07-19-2016 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Vancouver996
A torque wrench and following the spec when tightening will prevent this and importantly protect the sump threads .
No need for that if Jake patents and develops the "Faultless Drain Plug Tool".
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Originally Posted by Vancouver996
A torque wrench and following the spec when tightening will prevent this and importantly protect the sump threads .
The fact that this plug will fail if over-torqued offers built-in protection for the sump threads. I think that is a design feature.
Old 07-19-2016 | 03:11 PM
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Broke mine, too... over torque.
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The cool thing is that when the joint between the flange and the barrel failed - at least in my case - the barrel was still threaded into the sump plate and with the flange gone, there was no torque required to remove it. Removal was so painless it was almost...faultless...
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Happy ending! Got in touch with LN Engineering yesterday and they are sending a new drain plug. I really appreciate that. Thanks Charles and Stephen at LN!


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