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Old 10-21-2019, 12:53 PM
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As LN says, hammer whatever torx or hex bit that will fit and then try again to get it out. That's how I got mine out when it got stripped. I think I used a one-size-up hex bit. There must be a reason they don't use a standard bolt-like plug. It probably has to do with how flush the bolt has to be when installed. There's no room to get a wrench around the edge without making the bold head smaller and still have it not stick out.

In any case, the metal is soft and I see this is a wear item. I will be replacing mine again after the next 3 or 4 oil changes, depending on how it looks. Not a lot of money for a good way to monitor what's going on in the engine.
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Originally Posted by MikeinBloomfield
As LN says, hammer whatever torx or hex bit that will fit and then try again to get it out. That's how I got mine out when it got stripped. I think I used a one-size-up hex bit. There must be a reason they don't use a standard bolt-like plug. It probably has to do with how flush the bolt has to be when installed. There's no room to get a wrench around the edge without making the bold head smaller and still have it not stick out.

In any case, the metal is soft and I see this is a wear item. I will be replacing mine again after the next 3 or 4 oil changes, depending on how it looks. Not a lot of money for a good way to monitor what's going on in the engine.
Torx is what the recommended (post #36) under this scenario.
Old 10-21-2019, 03:24 PM
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I'll give it a try w/a torx as soon as my new plug arrives. YES, MY NEW PLUG! Thank you Charles for standing behind your products and providing outstanding support, even on something which could very well not have been your fault. Much appreciated.
Old 10-22-2019, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam
Yup, I have a small quarter inch drive torque wrench and a big half inch drive. Both always stored at 0.
The 1/2" is to big, does your 1/4" drive go up to 19ft lbs?
Old 10-22-2019, 06:55 PM
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I find a 3/8 to be perfect - otherwise my 1/4 drive has Nm and Inch-pounds

Recently bought a digital torque adaptor but there is something more satisfying about feeling and hearing the click rather than a "beep".
Old 10-22-2019, 07:04 PM
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I meant to say 3/8, not 1/4. Oops.
Old 10-22-2019, 10:48 PM
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When using either Torx, or Hex bits, it makes them grab way better if you dress the end of the wrench flat,
Many are extruded so end up convex on the end which keeps the face from bottoming out in the hole.
I use a smal; v-block screwed to the grinder so I can get them flat and square faced..
Old 10-26-2019, 09:58 PM
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Torx T50 did the trick! It was VERY easy. I suspect it being cooled down helped.
Old 11-07-2019, 11:24 AM
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sadly mine cracked in the same way, and I always use a torque wrench at 18lb ft. guess it just happens.
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
sadly mine cracked in the same way, and I always use a torque wrench at 18lb ft. guess it just happens.
Have you tested the calibration of your TW?
Old 11-07-2019, 01:21 PM
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yes, actually. Whatever, its $25 for a new bolt.
Old 11-07-2019, 01:42 PM
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I think the first generation plugs were softer than the current version. I have an early one and I've not had any issues with it, but I'll replace it during the next oil change.
Old 11-07-2019, 02:17 PM
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Coincidentally, I just changed my oil as well before putting my car to sleep for the winter and I remembered about the low torque setting for these Mag drain plug. I set my Craftsman TW to 19lb-ft and very slowly tighten that plug until it clicks. For some reason it felt a lot of force even though 19 ft-lb is not much. Maybe I was extra careful on that plug, but so far so good, no leaks, cheers...
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Yes, the new plug is nicely labeled with torque requirement. I used the torque wrench and found 19ft lbs to be NOT a lot! Hopefully i'm good for the next 6 months or so. :-)



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