I bought KK's car(long story...)
#31
My new glasses must be worse than I thought. I still don't see anything about already have a new motor until after our exchange...
#33
#35
Once the bearing has started to go, it's too late. The engine needs to be torn down, cleaned throughly, and put back together (usually with some key parts being replaced).
The problem is that the shed metal runs through the entire system and will get lodged in places that no amount of flushing will remove. Then it just sits and waits until it finally falls free like a clot in your blood stream. Either AWDguy or Ahsai have some pics of such things from when they disassembled their motors. Jake has shared a number of such pics too.
Basically it comes down to if the LN bearing wasn't installed by a certified installer that did the whole pre-qual check, then a growing number of us feel that the upgraded bearing is no more valuable than the stock bearing when the car is sold.
#38
Race Director
I was under the assumption based on KK's description in his thread documenting the bearing update that he used the Pelican kit EXCEPT the bearing that he sourced directly from the bearing manufacturer/distributor, and that he subsequently contacted Pelican trying to get them to change the bearing in their kit so it would include the one he used.
Based on what we've read over the past couple of days, I hope Pelican continued to ignore the suggestion.
I interpret this as "I used using the Pelican retaining bolt/stud with the ceramic hybrid [CH] bearing I sourced directly."
Based on what we've read over the past couple of days, I hope Pelican continued to ignore the suggestion.
If anyone else is thinking of doing this:
Got all the parts rounded up for my budget RMS / IMSB retrofit job. Took all the specs and info available on the OEM, LNE, and Casper Ceramic Hybrid bearings. I checked with several bearing companies and distributors and sourced one from Imre's suggested company. The CH bearing with Pelican ret bolt/stud is next to the OEM type bearing. I ordered two RMS's just in case I botch one, pilot bearing, Sachs clutch kit, all new bolts/fasteners, flex disc, and cam plugs. Not in the pics is the Loctite sealant and special green wicking sealant. I have the trans out and the engine locked, ready for extraction of old IMSB.
Got all the parts rounded up for my budget RMS / IMSB retrofit job. Took all the specs and info available on the OEM, LNE, and Casper Ceramic Hybrid bearings. I checked with several bearing companies and distributors and sourced one from Imre's suggested company. The CH bearing with Pelican ret bolt/stud is next to the OEM type bearing. I ordered two RMS's just in case I botch one, pilot bearing, Sachs clutch kit, all new bolts/fasteners, flex disc, and cam plugs. Not in the pics is the Loctite sealant and special green wicking sealant. I have the trans out and the engine locked, ready for extraction of old IMSB.
#39
IIRC in his "I want to do this cheap" thread he mentioned buying a Pelican bearing, but then went on to use the el-cheapo option (maybe with the Pelican flange/bolt?). If that is indeed correct that would sound like a serious case of misrepresentation to have included that receipt without accompanying notes about what was actually installed.
#40
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Sorry to hear about what happened but even with the home grown fix since you had put 7k miles on the car there's likely very little that can be done legally.
Sure KK can volunteer to help out but he technically did change the IMSB, he just didn't use what most of us would consider to be the appropriate solution.
Glad you're back on the road, hope you can continue being a member here and putting this all behind you.
Sure KK can volunteer to help out but he technically did change the IMSB, he just didn't use what most of us would consider to be the appropriate solution.
Glad you're back on the road, hope you can continue being a member here and putting this all behind you.
#41
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Glad to finally hear from you and sorry about your car issue. Since there is most likely no recourse, try and put it behind you and know that the RL 996 forum is here to help with future 996 issues. And if there is a possibility of getting some $$ out of KK, I wish you the best.
KK was extremely ignorant posting your catastrophic engine failure here on RL last week to harass us and goat us.
After fellow RL member posted KK's old IMS thread and the shortcut repair using subpar parts, we all confirmed KK dug his own grave and has some sort of psychological issue.
Having been a member here for a long time and a person who has bought and sold several cars to RL members over the years, I was really taken back that someone could be so deliberate in their evasiveness. Especially after his taunting the forum.
We all like to have fun and games poking insults and grinding on our fellow members, but when It comes down to a hefty investment and a serious transaction, the jokes are left aside and people need to be forthright and upfront when selling a car.
KK is a great example of what we do not want here on RL
KK was extremely ignorant posting your catastrophic engine failure here on RL last week to harass us and goat us.
After fellow RL member posted KK's old IMS thread and the shortcut repair using subpar parts, we all confirmed KK dug his own grave and has some sort of psychological issue.
Having been a member here for a long time and a person who has bought and sold several cars to RL members over the years, I was really taken back that someone could be so deliberate in their evasiveness. Especially after his taunting the forum.
We all like to have fun and games poking insults and grinding on our fellow members, but when It comes down to a hefty investment and a serious transaction, the jokes are left aside and people need to be forthright and upfront when selling a car.
KK is a great example of what we do not want here on RL
#42
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This is clearly and absolutely an actionable case. It is not often where you get the smoking gun evidence necessary to move forward in a civil fraud situation. This is that case where it exists, however. KK has assets. Even in a state like Texas with very liberal (yes I used "Texas" and "liberal" in the same sentence) bankruptcy laws, it is worth proceeding against him. Find a young lawyer in KK's area of Texas who wants to establish a reputation and who will work on a contingent fee. I cannot imagine a more favorable set of facts to go to trial with. Do you think the lady who sued McDonald's for the hot coffee incident had an open & shut case? The potential punitive damages here could easily run into the tens of thousands of dollars as the actual damages are significant.
A judgment for civil fraud is non-dischargeable in bankruptcy, by the way.
#43
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Thank you Counsel - I assumed a bill of sale with "No warranty stated or implied" and "Sold as is" protects the seller no matter what? Would be great if buyer could collect some $$ - All the power to him.
I'd be all over KK if I bought that car.
I'd be all over KK if I bought that car.
#44
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These two statements are not congruent.
This is clearly and absolutely an actionable case. It is not often where you get the smoking gun evidence necessary to move forward in a civil fraud situation. This is that case where it exists, however. KK has assets. Even in a state like Texas with very liberal (yes I used "Texas" and "liberal" in the same sentence) bankruptcy laws, it is worth proceeding against him. Find a young lawyer in KK's area of Texas who wants to establish a reputation and who will work on a contingent fee. I cannot imagine a more favorable set of facts to go to trial with. Do you think the lady who sued McDonald's for the hot coffee incident had an open & shut case? The potential punitive damages here could easily run into the tens of thousands of dollars as the actual damages are significant.
A judgment for civil fraud is non-dischargeable in bankruptcy, by the way.
This is clearly and absolutely an actionable case. It is not often where you get the smoking gun evidence necessary to move forward in a civil fraud situation. This is that case where it exists, however. KK has assets. Even in a state like Texas with very liberal (yes I used "Texas" and "liberal" in the same sentence) bankruptcy laws, it is worth proceeding against him. Find a young lawyer in KK's area of Texas who wants to establish a reputation and who will work on a contingent fee. I cannot imagine a more favorable set of facts to go to trial with. Do you think the lady who sued McDonald's for the hot coffee incident had an open & shut case? The potential punitive damages here could easily run into the tens of thousands of dollars as the actual damages are significant.
A judgment for civil fraud is non-dischargeable in bankruptcy, by the way.
Why do lawyers in the US have to sue everybody for everything? It's a used car for god's sake!
For the record, I still like you, but don't agree with you on this one.