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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:12 PM
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My 01 is in the shop getting all the common problems sorted out...RMS, IMS, AOS and all the other initials that go with it. Also replacing clutch/ flywheel. What are the pros/ cons of a lightweight flywheel?

I drive the car almost daily. I haven't done any track days yet bc I wanted to get it all recon'ed first. I do plan to track it though, but maybe only a few times a year.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:28 PM
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Lightweight flywheels:
1. Can cause broken crankshafts unless you also add a harmonic balencer.
2. Can cause erratic idle
3. Cause transmission gear noise at idle.
4. Take a little more concentration in stop n go traffic.

1. Enable the engine to rev quicker from idle and when rev matching between shifts.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:32 PM
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Don't do it!
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:48 PM
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I wouldn't do it. For a street/track car I think the cons, as mentioned by fpb, outweigh the benefit of a faster reving engine. For a dedicated track car, another story.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:58 PM
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I bought an aasco aluminium flywheel , but my Indy scared me with tales of broken crankshafts . He talked me into a single mass flywheel instead to replace the stock dual mass flywheel . The reasoning was smoother running and easier to live with , more robust than the stock dual mass unit , yet a bit more free reving .
It cost 1k CDN .



But there are rennlisters who love the aasco flywheel and I haven't heard of a case of an actual crankshaft breaking . Hopefully if someone has had this happen they will post .

If anyone is interested , I have an aasco still in the box I'd sell for 75% of what I paid for it from pelican .

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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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Kind of what I was leaning towards, I've had lightweight flywheels in RX7's in the past and they suffered from all the same issues discussed here. Ill probably go back with stock

Thanks guys
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Vancouver996
I bought an aasco aluminium flywheel , but my Indy scared me with tales of broken crankshafts . He talked me into a gt3 type single mass flywheel instead to replace the stock dual mass flywheel . The reasoning was smoother running and easier to live with , more robust than the stock dual mass unit , yet a bit more free reving .
It cost 1k CDN .

But there are rennlisters who love the aasco flywheel and I haven't heard of a case of an actual crankshaft breaking . Hopefully if someone has had this happen they will post .

If anyone is interested , I have an aasco still in the box I'd sell for 75% of what I paid for it from pelican .
Just out of curiosity how does a GT3 lightweight flywheel differ from the Aasco, did it come with the heavier pulley for the other end?

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Some interesting reading:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...l#post10816248

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/g...-flywheel.html

https://rennlist.com/forums/gt2-and-...track-diy.html

Seems like there is more than one GT3 LWFW:
"Probably they use the same because the pseudo- LWFW double mass of the 997.2GT3 is light enough."

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Originally Posted by Vancouver996
I bought an aasco aluminium flywheel , but my Indy scared me with tales of broken crankshafts . He talked me into a gt3 type single mass flywheel instead to replace the stock dual mass flywheel . The reasoning was smoother running and easier to live with , more robust than the stock dual mass unit , yet a bit more free reving .
I suspect that any solid flywheel has the same downside as the AASCO LWFW has because the engine wasn't built with a harmonic dampener (which the dual-mass flywheel compensates for).
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 11:41 AM
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I have a lightweight flywheel in my 951, do not like it at all for reasons posted above. Stay with the stock flywheel IMO.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 11:44 AM
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The Gt3 is is a different matter they had issues with over reving and the bolt shearing on the front pulley
the 996 is a different combo and the Aasco weight is almost 15 pounds vs the steel RS which is mentioned in this thread is 12lbs
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 01:09 PM
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Yikes, I wish I saw this thread months ago.
I just purchased a center balanced package from Patrick Motorsports, LW flywheel, and sacks clutch & pressure plate.
Waiting for spring to have installed when doing IMS / RMS upgrade.
I have 2003 996 C2 Coupe 3.6L.
Already done is IPD compitetion plenum 82 mm, Evoms tune, Kline headers and 200 Cell X pipe, Tubi Style mufflers.
This is daily driver and occasional autocross, Drag & going to do PCA DE.
Also planning on doing RSS underdrive pulley.
Am I igniting my own engine destruction??
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NYoutftr
Yikes, I wish I saw this thread months ago.
I just purchased a center balanced package from Patrick Motorsports, LW flywheel, and sacks clutch & pressure plate.
Waiting for spring to have installed when doing IMS / RMS upgrade.
I have 2003 996 C2 Coupe 3.6L.
Already done is IPD compitetion plenum 82 mm, Evoms tune, Kline headers and 200 Cell X pipe, Tubi Style mufflers.
This is daily driver and occasional autocross, Drag & going to do PCA DE.
Also planning on doing RSS underdrive pulley.
Am I igniting my own engine destruction??
I'd ask them about it and see what they say. From what I have gathered, the reason why they do cause problems is because it's not balanced. But, not sure about that.

Again, I'd ask them about it.

Mike
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 02:41 PM
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The aasco lwfw is computer balanced and certified .
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Vancouver996
The aasco lwfw is computer balanced and certified .
Patrick motorsports has this info on their website.
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