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Old 10-08-2013, 06:44 PM
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A Little About RK...

For those that don't know, I (Jamie_GT3) am an owner of RK Autowerks. We are known for our BMW S62 engines, supercharger kits, parts etc... As you know, I purchased my 997.1 RS last year and began understanding the landscape for modifying these wonderful cars. Some things became obvious as I dug a little deeper that the car had a destructive harmonic that was not well understood and was creeping up in strange ways (cam actuator bolts, flywheel bolts, crank pulley bolts, and oil pumps to name a few). Upon conversations with engine builders and their experiences it became obvious the GT3's/GT2's and Turbo's needed a much more targeted harmonic damper than the factory had provided. Through our 4.2l build we decided a custom damper for our engine and for everyone else would be needed.

We'll be running an intro group buy and offering shops a discount so that we can stave off these unnecessary engine failures! Feel free to PM me or email at:
jamie at rkautowerks dot com

Below is an intro to the Silent Killer, it's lengthy but a topic worth understanding!




Porsche 6 Cylinder Harmonic Engine Failure
The Silent Killer
This is a term I am sure you have heard before, but probably not heard it used in the context of engines. Engine failures are not uncommon; all of us have either been the victim of a failure or know someone who has. Most often it is your typical failure, one we have seen or heard of before. Recently, failures that result from a different kind of cause are becoming more common. The Porsche GT3 engine has had quite a few harmonic failures as evidenced by the volume of emails I have received and our own unfortunate experiences. Just to put this in context, all engines suffer from this phenomenon.

Engines create a continual series of vibrations known as harmonics. Each time the engine ignites the fuel mixture and there is combustion, the forces from these combustion's act upon the crankshaft. The forces generated from these combustion's force the pistons downward which, in turn, rotate the crankshaft. This is known as tangential torques. The rotating and reciprocating masses create torque pulses within the crankshaft each time it rotates.

The Porsche GT3 engine seems to be having its fair share of vibrational failures. We have seen crank pulley bolts and flywheels come loose, cam actuators come apart and in our own particular case we had an engine that broke the scavenge gears inside the oil pump. I know of other GT3 engines that have had similar failures. These failures are not new to the Porsche Boxer engine.



Harmonics are not new. For years the Porsche Boxer engine has been thought of as a neutrally balanced engine with each pair of opposite pistons always in the same position and the forces are counter balanced or cancelled out. Not so. As engine internals have become lighter and lighter to meet mileage requirements the issue of balance and harmonics has become more real.

The Porsche engine in the 962C race car had huge issues with harmonics. In the US this engines displacement was 3.0L or 3.2L engine with 70.40mm or 74.40mm stroke using a single lightweight flywheel and a small steel crankshaft pulley to drive the alternator. We saw complete crankshaft failures where the crank would break into two pieces and a lot of camshaft drive failures. The cam drives in these engines were all gear driven. They would “vibrate” so much that bushings in the gear housings would rotate and the roller bearings would starve of oil, seize on the gear shafts, the cams would stop turning and the rotating parts of the engine would often saw the engine in half. Cause = Harmonics. Result = Engine Completely Destroyed. Solution = Custom Built Damper to Eliminate Harmonics. Very hard to diagnose the cause when there is little left to inspect. This was a silent killer.

Recent failures seen in the late model Porsche GT3 and Turbo engines are not a Porsche problem, they are an engine problem. Porsche have suggested that these issues have resulted from modifications of the original spec’ed engines. Their Technical bulletin (GT3 Engine: Flywheel and Pulley) speaks directly to this matter. However, the removal of the dual mass flywheel is not the cause. The springs inside the flywheel and the mass of the flywheel have some dampening effect, but it needs to be understood that dual mass flywheels are not harmonic dampers. Dual mass flywheels are used to stop transmission failures, not dampen engine produced harmonics. The earlier 996 GT3 engines came with a rubber “tuned” damper similar to the one used on the earlier 993 engine. Why this was removed from later engines mystifies me when Porsche must have known about the harmonic issue. Regardless, all of the GT3 engines have had engine failure problems caused by the internal harmonics with either flywheel fitted. Even the Turbo engines have had their share. Like a lot of the GT3 failures, the real cause has not been identified and only the result has been addressed.

I have read where the camshaft adjusting actuators are poorly designed and therefore are the cause of the retaining screws backing out, not so. This type of thinking and diagnosis stops at the visual result but does not consider nor understand the cause; hence the “Silent Killer” title. Although adding further loctite to the screws cannot hurt, this doesn’t solve the problem. It can just move the problem down the chain. To loosen these bolts the vibration is transferred from the crankshaft into the 1st motion shaft or Intermediate shaft as it is known in the Porsche world. This shaft drives the chains that drive the camshafts.

This same intermediate shaft drives the oil pump and the same vibrations that go up through the chains go into the oil pump. The pump gears are made of sintered metal, very brittle and weak material. In their normal function without the inducement of harmonics the scavenge gears are loaded and unloaded on each rotation often scavenging air then oil then air again. The unloading effect causes them to bang backwards and forwards. Now add in the high frequency vibration to a gear made of very brittle material. The keyway groove machined into these gears has very sharp square corners at the root of the adjacent gear tooth. Think you fix one area and the problem moves to the next weakest part!

I have been asked why Cup or RSR race engines do not suffer from these same failures. They do, but with some exceptions. First, these engines do not have electronic variable adjustable camshafts so their camshafts have fixed timing. Second, their typical operating RPM range is 5500 and above. The failures seen in the street engines typically happen after periods of low speed driving. Racing these street engines does bring into play other issues, but the harmonic range that causes most of the failures is at lower engine speeds. Continual high speed operation of these race engines above their safety limit has resulted in complete crankshaft failures, just as we have seen in the earlier 962C engines.


So how did we come up with the specifications of the new damper? First we had to understand the cause and then we needed to find the RPM range and the magnitude of the pulses. This was done by fitting up special test equipment at each end of an engine along with high speed impulse sensors and inputting this information into some very powerful software. Some of the areas of analysis that can be computed are, angular vibration velocities measured degrees per sec, angular vibration displacement measured degrees, torsion angle orders, energy generated at certain frequencies related to engine speed, and the energy generated at specific orders at their critical engine speeds. Essentially, by running the engine at different RPM’s under load we can measure the deflection of the crankshaft by the tooth count at each end of the engine. We know the degree difference between each tooth on these wheels so the deflection of the crankshaft can be calculated by the stroke or offset of the crankshaft and the degrees of deflection measured. We are extremely grateful for the assistance of an outside company who provided the test equipment and the software. This information is then supplied to the damper manufacturer who can then calculate the size, weight and appropriate sizes of orings required. These new dampers are able to be rebuilt so anyone using one in a racing application can periodically rebuild it. The factory 997 RS pulley is located on the crankshaft by a very small amount of engagement 0.160”, with no interference at all, a small alignment dowel pin and held in place by the pulley bolt. We always see the end of the crankshaft nose showing signs of pulley movement. Earlier I stated where the pulley bolts have come loose. Crankshaft nose end moves, pulley moves, bolt comes loose. This new damper increases the engagement onto the crankshaft nose to over 0.500” almost all the way back to the front crankshaft seal. We have also included interference to the crankshaft nose diameter. The damper is located by the same dowel pin and the original pulley bolt. The outside diameter of the damper is engraved the same as the factory Pulley is. The OEM, TDC, and Timing marks are retained along with full 360 degree increments.



Added benefits can also be had in simple performance gains. A “straight” crankshaft, an engine with less “internal vibration” will always produce more torque. Would a race version of the GT3 engine gain torque if fitted with a damper? Absolutely, it’s an engine first, a Porsche engine second. A small amount of additional torque can make the difference. Removing all of the vibration from the timing chain, keeping the camshaft timing consistent with the designed position will always result in more torque. By adding a crankshaft damper designed especially for these engines to “match” the low speed frequencies causing the current failures, the counter acting absorbs ion of the damper will counter the crankshaft twist and eliminate the failures. Now changes to the engines displacement with longer stroke crankshafts, longer or shorter rods, etc. can be done. This added mass at the correct end of the crankshaft will allow owners to remove the stock heavy mass dual flywheels and change to the single mass flywheels. The greatest dimensional change in the crankshaft happens at the pulley end of the crankshaft. Even if no other changes are done to the engine the owner can now have confidence that the known parts to fail should not!

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I have to say, since I own an E46 M3 and went through all the harmonic issues of the S54 related to LWFW and the stock harmonic damper, it always weirded me out how the GT3RS has no harmonic damper and used a Single mass flywheel. I just trusted Porsche knew what they were doing when they simply used the lighter weight crank pulley for the RS. They were just trying to balance it as best they could without using a damper I suppose.

So I assume then, even by adding mass back to the crank pulley side (because I assume it's significantly heavier than the stock unit, 292 grams) and using it in an RS with a stock single mass flywheel, then no issues are to be had?

Look forward to more info, but count me in for the group buy.
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Agreed.

It is heavier than the stock unit, but not so much so as to really notice it through the rev range. It's diameter is significantly less than a flywheel and it's the mass x the distance from center (moment) that is important for speed of rotation (think of a figure skater). Since the mass is concentrated with the damper.

No issues to be had, only improvements!
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Originally Posted by RKAutowerks
Agreed.

It is heavier than the stock unit, but not so much so as to really notice it through the rev range. It's diameter is significantly less than a flywheel and it's the mass x the distance from center (moment) that is important for speed of rotation (think of a figure skater). Since the mass is concentrated with the damper.

No issues to be had, only improvements!
Trust me, I'll gladly give back a touch of revs in order to gain long-term engine life. I'm going to track this car for years to come.
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It's especially important as the size of the engine increases. The 3.6's don't have as much issue. the 3.8's have more and word on the street is 4.0RS's aren't lasting long when street driven. All in all this is a great investment for peace of mind. Just like welding the coolant fittings, you may be fine without doing it for a while, but sooner or later physics will win...

We did it for my 4.2L for the same reason want this thing to last for a while!
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Hi Jamie

Very interesting indeed, thanks for the effort in diagnostics and of course solution development

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As much as I like finding a solution and fixing it- you 100% sure it's the cause? U have 2 things at odds 1) if engine still implodes and 2) PAG won't warranty a aftermarket sol'n. U willing to go on the line this will solve this issue? An engine rebuild or engine replacemt won't be cheap. Just saying. Mike
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
As much as I like finding a solution and fixing it- you 100% sure it's the cause? U have 2 things at odds 1) if engine still implodes and 2) PAG won't warranty a aftermarket sol'n. U willing to go on the line this will solve this issue? An engine rebuild or engine replacemt won't be cheap. Just saying. Mike
Just a small company trying to bring solutions to issues that outside of porsche land are not so mysterious. Are we going to warranty an engine to not grenade, no. Too many variables. Am I willing to say that this damper will help alleviate some of the "mysterious" bolts coming loose and extend the engine's life and maybe even give you a bit extra torque, Yes.

Keep in mind, what we did wasn't reinvent the wheel. Like Pervez said, until someone made an aftermarket damper the BMW S54 was in worse shape (snapping cranks).

It's not a solution for everyone, some people will wait until something happens and then ask what happened and why didn't PAG fix it...

I'm not wired that way, I thought, we made it for my engine project, why not offer it up to my Rennlist brothers and sisters...

You don't want it, no sweat!

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Hi Jamie

Very interesting indeed, thanks for the effort in diagnostics and of course solution development

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The tough choice to make I guess. Stay with something that is known to fail or go with something that is known to solve these types of failures. That's the choice each owner has to make.
Understanding the failures and their cause is a huge part of finding and know the solution.

A saying that was told to me , "there are two types of people in this business, those that can see it wrong and fix it, and those that don't see it at all"
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Originally Posted by m42racer
A saying that was told to me , "there are two types of people in this business, those that can see it wrong and fix it, and those that don't see it at all"
Loctite is not the answer...
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I'm not being negative at all and I'm glad someone has a sol'n to the problem. For those in the fence in doing such a preventive modification any protocol prior inspecting so and so? Mike
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
I'm not being negative at all and I'm glad someone has a sol'n to the problem. For those in the fence in doing such a preventive modification any protocol prior inspecting so and so? Mike
No worries, shoot me a PM or email and we can discuss. As far as installing the damper, not so much involved. Bumper, center muffler and possibly the front engine carrier need to come off (support the engine). We're putting together a kit for installation...
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
As much as I like finding a solution and fixing it- you 100% sure it's the cause? U have 2 things at odds 1) if engine still implodes and 2) PAG won't warranty a aftermarket sol'n. U willing to go on the line this will solve this issue? An engine rebuild or engine replacemt won't be cheap. Just saying. Mike
If your car is still under warranty, then use the stock pulley until it's out of warranty, then upgrade. Pretty simple.

I'm just glad somebody is addressing the issue, an issue that none of us really paid attention to.

Will it fix every engine issue that could be associated with vibration, probably not, but for the long haul, I don't see how it can hurt. There has never been an engine that has not benefited from a properly tuned harmonic damper/balancer.

Go ask anybody racing an E46 M3, they all use high performance tuned harmonic dampers from VAC. The problem with the inline-6 is that that the crank is considerably longer, so even more vibration and twisting occurs, so BMW had to us both a damper and dual mass flywheel to control the problem. Once people started using lighter weight single mass flywheels, the vibration was too much for the harmonic damper to handle on the crank pulley side. It would either get hot and crack, hopefully not causing tons of damage, or you would just nuke your crank and rod bearings all together.

The flat-6 benefits from an inherently much more balanced design (shorter crank), but that's not to say it still wont' benefit from some harmonic damping. My guess is the vibration on the 996 GT3 and 997.1 GT3 was not enough to cause Porsche to think it needed one, and also simply for reasons of cost. We've seen them cut corners in countless other areas on this car. Harmonic dampers are expensive, but worth every penny IMO.

I look forward to more information on this product.
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There is nothing wrong with been cautious here. The cost if these engines and the repair warrants this. However how many of these failures have happened to date and nothing from the maker to fix. This is not something that promises huge performance gains or huge increases in air flow. So many of these upgrades never actually live up to the hype sold. This is a solution to a mechanical problem that is causing alot of owners real grief.

I suppose it could be said, for those that are "on the fence" here, if you think it may not fix the problem, it certainly won't create one.

To quote another line I've heard, " to think outside the box, first you must think inside the box"


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