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Old 05-19-2019, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
Can you explain how the # sequence works?
Here's mine
Here is the engine S/N chart, AT in the number that factory replacement.
Old 05-20-2019, 12:08 PM
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No relation, but this seems like a screaming deal on a very clean C4S.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...FRRIDAodv88L6g

Only thing I can see in a quick look is it needs motor mounts, and silver is a bit boring. Throw the HVAC down to the bottom and put in a modern BT head unit and I think you'd have a hell of a car.
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Originally Posted by orangeman
No relation, but this seems like a screaming deal on a very clean C4S.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...FRRIDAodv88L6g

Only thing I can see in a quick look is it needs motor mounts, and silver is a bit boring. Throw the HVAC down to the bottom and put in a modern BT head unit and I think you'd have a hell of a car.
What do you see in the photos that indicates needing motor mounts? i dont see any mention of replacement IMSB in the write-up so assume its needed. still think the price is very good even if it needs some $ thrown at it.
Old 05-20-2019, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
What do you see in the photos that indicates needing motor mounts? i dont see any mention of replacement IMSB in the write-up so assume its needed. still think the price is very good even if it needs some $ thrown at it.
The gap between the exhaust tips and bumper facia are usually a little tighter.
Old 05-20-2019, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
The gap between the exhaust tips and bumper facia are usually a little tighter.
Learn something new everyday, thanks.
Old 05-20-2019, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
Learn something new everyday, thanks.
Originally Posted by 808Bill
The gap between the exhaust tips and bumper facia are usually a little tighter.
Originally Posted by Optionman1
What do you see in the photos that indicates needing motor mounts? i dont see any mention of replacement IMSB in the write-up so assume its needed. still think the price is very good even if it needs some $ thrown at it.
You got it.

I'd be super interested to see the sticker on this car. It's almost guaranteed (from the factory) to have the small CF kit, which is the instrument surround, the trim between the upper and lower dash and the horsehoe, and the shifter as a separate option. I would guess the console, air vents and door sills are aftermarket but the look pretty good. The steering wheel is definitely not factory, it looks different from mine, but again it looks pretty darn good. I'd be all over this car, most dealers would have it from $28-34 in the current market. Law suit data from this year was a 4.5% failure rate on IMS, no way I'd bother doing it until it was time for a new clutch.

1. buy the car
2. Remove the front plate abd buy bumper plugs
3. apologize to the car for having its front plate on
4. get new semi solid motor mounts, I absolutely love my torque solution ones
5. smoked side markers
6. a SONY Ax1000 android auto headunit and relocation kit
7. Very nivce detail
8. drive it like you stole it

Edit: actually I think the steering wheel is stock, i think the flash just lits it up and makes it look different that real life

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Old 05-20-2019, 04:43 PM
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These running into the 80-90,000 range for mileage doesn't scare anyone? Just asking for knowledge into these 996 3.4 and 3.6 motors.
Old 05-20-2019, 04:46 PM
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If it pans out, I'm about to buy an '02 with 180k miles on it and I ain't scurred.
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Originally Posted by neblackshirts
These running into the 80-90,000 range for mileage doesn't scare anyone? Just asking for knowledge into these 996 3.4 and 3.6 motors.
Nopers, even these non-mezger engines go to about 250k. They definitely seem to explode at 250k though.

https://jalopnik.com/i-dyno-tested-m...les-1788130306

The mezgers may be good to 500k....

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...0-miles-on-it/
Old 05-20-2019, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by orangeman
Nopers, even these non-mezger engines go to about 250k. They definitely seem to explode at 250k though.

https://jalopnik.com/i-dyno-tested-m...les-1788130306

The mezgers may be good to 500k....

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...0-miles-on-it/

Wow, so it sounds a lot like the air-cooled guys as they are pretty open to brag about the crazy miles they can get on those as well. Maybe it's the overall engine design that allows the Porsche motors from Air-Cooled days to Water-Cooled to go so long.
Old 05-20-2019, 04:57 PM
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https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AA299X2S621624/

$85,400 new
Old 05-20-2019, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by neblackshirts
Wow, so it sounds a lot like the air-cooled guys as they are pretty open to brag about the crazy miles they can get on those as well. Maybe it's the overall engine design that allows the Porsche motors from Air-Cooled days to Water-Cooled to go so long.

*magnesium block owners run and hide in the corner*
Old 05-20-2019, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by neblackshirts
These running into the 80-90,000 range for mileage doesn't scare anyone? Just asking for knowledge into these 996 3.4 and 3.6 motors.
Not me. The low mile "garage Queens" are the one's that end up having issues in many cases.
Old 05-20-2019, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by neblackshirts
These running into the 80-90,000 range for mileage doesn't scare anyone? Just asking for knowledge into these 996 3.4 and 3.6 motors.
Not in the least. Most modern vehicles have lots of life left in them at that mileage.

But I don't mind rolling up my sleeves and working on the vehicles myself. It'd be a different story if I had to pay someone to work on everything.

For me, it seems that there is a point in every aging vehicle's life where it becomes more cost and hassle to keep it roadworthy than it is to just buy a newer example. Most 80-90k mile 996es aren't there yet.
Old 05-20-2019, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
Not me. The low mile "garage Queens" are the one's that end up having issues in many cases.
Just curious, but what makes you say that? I see that repeated around here a fair bit. Often times it’s stated there is some greater correlation between low mileage cars and IMSB but I’m not sure where that really comes from. And other than the IMSB, what other issues disproportionately affect lower mileage cars?

if that is just your experience that’s fine — I was just wondering.


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