I agree with all of this. My purchase over the summer...'02 C2 Cab Tip was at a P dealer with all records and everything I wanted. The price was fair in my opinion ($20K), but I made it contingent on many service items being taken car of. They ended up agreeing to everything and replacing some things I did not ask for. About $4k in service was done, the price was the same. They want to move these cars, but the nicer ones will have a higher price.

 

If you are of the opinion that the $3700 worth of work represents a markup on sale of $3700, that would be supremely optimistic. From what I've seen, LN bearing, clutch, RMS seal job in the market means $600-1000 bump in value, all other things being equal.

 

Thanks to all of your for your feedback on this car: https://www.fisherimports.net/copy-o...ca-id-27027526
I would definitely do a full PPI before buying by an independent Porsche shop, and will try to negotiate on the price. Based on what I've seen, $23 - $24K wouldn't be unreasonable for a good example without the IMS, Clutch, and 60K service just having been done. I'm not sure how much that should add to the price, but not the full value of paying to get those done. Do any of you have opinions on what to add for that (thanks docmirror for your estimate of 600 - 1000).

Whenever I see discussions here of pricing, there are always lots of people who suggest thousands less than what I see for list pricing and I'm not sure how successful people are in negotiating down that much, especially for a clean car with all major service up to date. I guess there's no harm in just offering something a lot lower than asking price......

Thanks again for all your opinions!

Ed

 

feel free to read the rest of my post for my thoughts on value.

also, many times having this work done is the difference between actually moving the car and it not selling.

 

4/98 build date arena red 6spd coupe for 11k yes please!!!

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/c...746011408.html

 

Worn drivers seat, broken Carrera badge, needs new engine mounts.
Early build date so tell them "you know they never get them right in the beginning." (Which is false in this case)
Throw in the, "I'm afraid of IMS, borescoring, cracked heads, d-chunk, expensive Porsche maintenance.($500 oil changes)"
"Where's the glove box?"
Use that to talk them down some more.
Unless it failed my Durametric tests and AOS/Manometer test, I'd be interested.
Too bad it isn't local to me.

 

I'm having PTSD. This was every prospective buyer (verbatim) when I tried to sell mine earlier this year.

 

That's why you should never sell one.
They're perfect for buying and collecting, not selling.

 

C4S for asking price of $44,500. https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=489668918

Unusual things (but of course a very high asking price):

• mileage: 15,920 (geez, I've done pretty close to that in 1.5 years of ownership).
• sunroof delete
• not only heated seats, but also cooled?
• Porsche crests on seats
• painted console
• no mention of IMS service, but lots of other important service completed.

So..... assuming somebody negotiates this down to $40K, is this now the new reality in excellent condition C4S?

 

I'd say no. Just the reality for a C4S with incredibly low mileage.

 

This may sound like a great deal on a Porsche given it's a one-owner, low miles car; but, nothing could be further from the truth. M96 "garage queens" are some of the worst offenders of bearing failure. It boils down to... what you're asking and what you're getting are two entirely separate things. Realistically, this is more like a $35K car.

 

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/ctd...765739379.html

 

Nice!

 

Is this a good deal for a C4S?

https://www.rtexpo.com/inventory/vie...ats-Houston-TX