G-Force Performance Chip
#61
Race Director
Well, you condemned them all, and I assume you haven't tried them all. But let's start with one. Tell us which flash you tried on a 3.4 M96 Porsche engine, what your before and after dyno numbers were, your driving impressions, that kind of thing.
You're impugning a lot of companies and a lot of customers here. That kind of makes you the prosecution, so to speak. So the burden of proof is yours. I'd be very interested to know what your direct, empirical experience was.
You're impugning a lot of companies and a lot of customers here. That kind of makes you the prosecution, so to speak. So the burden of proof is yours. I'd be very interested to know what your direct, empirical experience was.
#62
Race Director
Cams I moved it 2,000 rpm to the right in my track car. Very similar curve to the stock cam profile, very slightly raised and significantly shifted to the right. I used 288 degree cams with 11mm of lift on intake and exhaust. Went to a shim under bucket conversion and removed the variable valve timing as it was a complication I didnt really think I needed since the car spends almost all its life in the 7-10,000 rpm range.
#63
I've given the original poster my answer. The difference is, I've actually done it.
#64
Race Director
No, I assumed your opinion was based on past experience. Chip tuning isn't the Easter bunny. It's not a matter of believing in it. It's a matter of whether you personally think it's worth the money.
I've given the original poster my answer. The difference is, I've actually done it.
I've given the original poster my answer. The difference is, I've actually done it.
#65
It is based on experience (having put a chip in a 944 turbo previously, and had 6 different cars running standalone systems), like I already mentioned. This is just one of the reasons (my experience) why I wouldnt have bothered putting a chip in the engine. The other is just plain comment sense, the timing and furl table parameters in a chip tune are speculation. You see once someone gets experience, they then apply it to future situations, its called learning. Its really quite good stuff.
Anyway, sorry I kept this going. I thought for a minute there, a few posts back, that you had some direct experience to share. Unsubscribed.
#66
Race Director
Um, wow. Just... wow. So a couple of things. Unlike your 944 turbo, we don't "put chips in" anymore. And that's just the start of what a 944 turbo doesn't have in common with a 996. Also, I think you're pretty unclear on how this code gets written. It's not speculation, at least not since OBD2. It's pretty much test-and-learn, at least for the good ones. It's true that past experience is a good basis for forming opinions, but only if that past experience is relevant.
Anyway, sorry I kept this going. I thought for a minute there, a few posts back, that you had some direct experience to share. Unsubscribed.
Anyway, sorry I kept this going. I thought for a minute there, a few posts back, that you had some direct experience to share. Unsubscribed.