My engine died today :(
11-27-2007, 04:22 PM
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I didn't have the endurance to read the whole thread but since you bought it at 75k and in the condition you describe, it is unlikely that the owner had the costly 60k service done on it, part of which is changing the timing belt. So you got screwed over because the owner before you was cheap. A word to the wise, if there isn't service documentation, DON'T BUY IT.
11-27-2007, 04:39 PM
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I didn't have the endurance to read the whole thread but since you bought it at 75k and in the condition you describe, it is unlikely that the owner had the costly 60k service done on it, part of which is changing the timing belt. So you got screwed over because the owner before you was cheap. A word to the wise, if there isn't service documentation, DON'T BUY IT.
11-27-2007, 07:14 PM
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11-27-2007, 08:07 PM
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I think you broke your timing chain/belt bro, or jumped a tooth or two. I'm thinking it wasn't replaced at the required mileage. Tries to start but won't run? Thats a spark at the wrong time Late/Early. Smoke and the smell of unburnt fuel. Thats no spark when your piston is at top dead center and non combusted fuel and air smoke show. I hope that the rods and valves did not come down at a very unpleasant moment when a piston or two was coming up.(timing) At any rate if that the case of my diagnosis you won't need a new engine, just a rebuild. Only a couple of cylinders should be effected unless you dogged it home in that condition. You didn't force if home did you. Brew
11-27-2007, 08:18 PM
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Porsche owner for less than a month. 75K on a '01 C4. Car had been checked over but no compression test was run. Car died, won't start, white smoke coming from driver exhaust pipe. Car does turn over. Oil is clean and coolant is clear. My Porsche owning experience has not been a happy one.
11-27-2007, 09:33 PM
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I think you broke your timing chain/belt bro, or jumped a tooth or two. I'm thinking it wasn't replaced at the required mileage. Tries to start but won't run? Thats a spark at the wrong time Late/Early. Smoke and the smell of unburnt fuel. Thats no spark when your piston is at top dead center and non combusted fuel and air smoke show. I hope that the rods and valves did not come down at a very unpleasant moment when a piston or two was coming up.(timing) At any rate if that the case of my diagnosis you won't need a new engine, just a rebuild. Only a couple of cylinders should be effected unless you dogged it home in that condition. You didn't force if home did you. Brew
11-27-2007, 09:43 PM
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Wow, who want to handle this one?
Oh, all right.
1- Porsche 996s do not have timing belts.
2- There is no "replacement at the required mileage" for the chain
3- Porsches do not have rods
4- Timing is set by the computer
5- There is no distrubutor
Oh, all right.
1- Porsche 996s do not have timing belts.
2- There is no "replacement at the required mileage" for the chain
3- Porsches do not have rods
4- Timing is set by the computer
5- There is no distrubutor
11-27-2007, 09:45 PM
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I didn't have the endurance to read the whole thread but since you bought it at 75k and in the condition you describe, it is unlikely that the owner had the costly 60k service done on it, part of which is changing the timing belt. So you got screwed over because the owner before you was cheap. A word to the wise, if there isn't service documentation, DON'T BUY IT.
11-27-2007, 10:04 PM
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Porsche owner for less than a month. 75K on a '01 C4. Car had been checked over but no compression test was run. Car died, won't start, white smoke coming from driver exhaust pipe. Car does turn over. Oil is clean and coolant is clear. My Porsche owning experience has not been a happy one.
11-27-2007, 10:12 PM
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All engines have a timing mechanism for spark, and a valve train dependent on timing. All engines have to distribute the spark whether it is mecanical or computorised. Regardless of how the thing is made. Belts, chains who gives a rats ****. The point is if this isn't in sinc it won't run. Duh? The fact remains and I can't wait to find out the problem, If you ain't gettin spark at top dead center the engine is going to stumble. Come on, look past my lack of knowlege of how a Porches engine is made and try and see the over all cause of lack of a smooth running motor. Oh I know, throw some money at it and it will go away. Please
11-27-2007, 10:34 PM
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I know the thread is long, but if you took the time to read it you will notice that the car has been to the dealer and an Indy. I think they would have noticed if the problem was a minor adjustment. The whole issue is that UFO is faced with losing a lot of money. We are trying to be helpful to him here, not make him feel worse with pedestrian comments.
11-27-2007, 10:37 PM
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I agree completely, My comments if you read my past ,was to offer help reguarding my past experience with engines, Porsche or not, and a general explanation relating to the feedback offered by UF007 of how an engine works and a possible answer to the problem he is having. Pedestrian? Buzz off. Go get a manicure and leave the engine work to real men.