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Old 12-28-2006, 08:51 PM
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Well, I am in another airport lounge having a few vodka tonics looking for some divine intervention here.
Del-I will be heading to Raleigh sometime next week to pick up some parts from the old C2 and drop off a few. Maybe we could get together then.
Old 12-28-2006, 08:55 PM
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pl- I am having trouble posting the carfax as it is an html document.
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Originally Posted by Zoolander
pl- I am having trouble posting the carfax as it is an html document.
highlight the carfax report from your broswer.
copy to notepad.
the copy to notepad to post.

this way you escape all html stuff.
Old 12-28-2006, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by oreganet
...and just to put valuations in perspective.

https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...postcount=8594

Oh wow, I didn't even know they produced the 996 in (edit)2005. Pretty wild.
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Originally Posted by arr0gant
Oh wow, I didn't even know they produced the 996 in 1995. Pretty wild.

huh?
Old 12-28-2006, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by oreganet
huh?
2005, I meant.
Old 12-28-2006, 09:42 PM
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Good point. I don't know. I'm sure someone else would though, as I'm pretty sure that's been discussed recently.
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thanks pl.

I hope you can read this.

Your AutoCheck Vehicle History Report




The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and summary information on your car is shown below.

Report Run Date: 12/14/2006
Vehicle Description: WP0AA29972S621905
TitleCheck: No Record Reported to AutoCheck
Problem Check: No Record Reported to AutoCheck
Odometer Check: Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck
Vehicle Information: Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck
Full History: Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck


Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History

VIN: WP0AA29972S621905
Year: 2002
Make: Porsche
Model: 911 Carrera Base Model/GT2
Style/Body: Coupe 2 Door
Engine: MFI 3.6L H-6
Country of Assembly: Germany


Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History



Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 2002 Porsche 911 Carrera Base Model/GT2 (WP0AA29972S621905) show no significant Title events. When found, events often indicate past automotive damage or warnings associated with the vehicle title.

Problems Checked Results Found
Abandoned No Abandoned Record Reported to AutoCheck
Damaged No Damaged Record Reported to AutoCheck
Fire Damage No Fire Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck
Grey Market No Grey Market Record Reported to AutoCheck
Hail Damage No Hail Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck
Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Record Reported to AutoCheck
Junk No Junk Record Reported to AutoCheck
Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Record Reported to AutoCheck
Salvage No Salvage Record Reported to AutoCheck


Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History



Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 2002 Porsche 911 Carrera Base Model/GT2 (WP0AA29972S621905) shows no historical events that indicate a significant automotive problem. These problems can indicate previous car damage, theft, or other significant problem.

Problems Checked Results Found
NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Record Reported to AutoCheck
Frame Damage No Frame Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck
Major Damage Incident No Major Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Record Reported to AutoCheck
Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Record Reported to AutoCheck
Recycled No Recycled Record Reported to AutoCheck
Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Record Reported to AutoCheck
Water Damage No Water Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck


Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History



Your Vehicle Checks Out! For this 2002 Porsche 911 Carrera Base Model/GT2 (WP0AA29972S621905) no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. We calculate odometer rollbacks by using AutoCheck business rules to determine reported odometer readings are less than a previously reported value. Other odometer events can report events of tampering, or possible odometer breakage. AutoCheck's business rules have been created and refined to help identify potential rollbacks from the reported odometer readings. Not all odometer readings are used to determine rollbacks.

Report Date: 12/14/2006
Date Reported Odometer Reading
02/27/2002 25
04/23/2002 35
04/23/2002 47
10/13/2005 38,024
03/29/2006 38,600


Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History



Information Found! AutoCheck found additional information on this vehicle. These records will provide you with more past history for this 2002 Porsche 911 Carrera Base Model/GT2 (WP0AA29972S621905).

Problems Checked Results Found
Accident Data No Accidents Reported Through State Agencies Or Independent Sources
Corrected Title No Corrected Title Record Reported to AutoCheck
Driver Education No Driver Education Record Reported to AutoCheck
Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Record Reported to AutoCheck
Emission/Safety Inspection Emission/Safety Inspection Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck
Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Record Reported to AutoCheck
Lease Lease Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck
Lien Lien Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck
Livery Use No Livery Use Record Reported to AutoCheck
Government Use No Government Use Record Reported to AutoCheck
Police Use No Police Use Record Reported to AutoCheck
Fleet No Fleet Record Reported to AutoCheck
Fleet and/or Rental No Fleet and/or Rental Record Reported to AutoCheck
Rental No Rental Record Reported to AutoCheck
Fleet and/or Lease No Fleet and/or Lease Record Reported to AutoCheck
Repossessed No Repossessed Record Reported to AutoCheck
Storm Area Registration/Title No Storm Area Registration/Title Indicated
Taxi Use No Taxi Use Record Reported to AutoCheck
Theft No Theft Record Reported to AutoCheck


Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History

Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.

Report Run Date: 12/14/2006
VIN: WP0AA29972S621905 2002 Porsche 911 Carrera Base Model/GT2


Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
02/27/2002 CA 25 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
03/22/2002 LOS ANGELES, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle)
04/03/2002 CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported)
04/23/2002 CA 35 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
04/23/2002 CA 47 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
06/06/2002 LAGUNA BEACH, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle)
06/19/2002 CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Lien Reported)
10/13/2005 PACIFIC SW REGION 38,024 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
03/29/2006 PACIFIC SW REGION 38,600 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
Old 12-29-2006, 01:00 AM
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z-
so look at the odo report history:
10/13/2005 PACIFIC SW REGION 38,024 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
03/29/2006 PACIFIC SW REGION 38,600 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION


so between 2005/10 until now, the car been auctioned twice. and whoever has/had it, they just can't move this thing.
not a good sign.
i will be VERY careful to inspect the car.

also, http://www.stlouiscarmuseum.com/ doesn't look like a p dealer, either.

also, if you read their post, they don't mention anything about the condition of the car itself.
Old 12-29-2006, 09:14 AM
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I tend to agree with pl - something doesn't sound right there - a car that cannot be moved on over a year and has gone through 2 auctions - something sounds fishy. That's a red flag to me also.
Old 12-29-2006, 12:56 PM
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Default St. Louis 996 C4s

Came close to buying this car 4 months ago from St. Louis... Contacted the dealership and things just didn't add up. I think they told me it was a 1 owner west coast car; couldn't answer some basic question re the car. So I moved on; but if you get better info from them it's a sweet looking ride.
Old 12-29-2006, 03:43 PM
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Just looked at the pictures again, the panel gaps aren't right. Looks like some work was done on the front end and the bumper cover doesn't align perfectly. Also, what's with the grease all over the leather interior? You're supposed to use Mobil 1 in the engine not on the interior. There is also a big gap in the the reporting (odometer, registration) between 06/19/2002 and when it went to auction in 2005. Have your local dealer run the vin# to see if there is any service history during those missing years. Imho, walk away from this one unless you get more info.
Old 12-30-2006, 03:20 PM
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Pongo,

I do have all the records that go with the car and they include the period from 02 to 05. The dealer that maintained the car in CA faxed them to the seller and he forwarded it on to me. A few minor things but the engine was replaced 12/04 at around 27,000 miles.
Old 12-30-2006, 09:35 PM
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I personally would not go with car #1. That car was for sale here in CA and when I saw it, it was in bad shape. Scratches everywhere, poor interior shape....etc
Old 12-31-2006, 05:08 PM
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keoni, r u sure it was same car? If it was it will probably be last straw for that car.


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