Sensors that can cause turn over but no start
#50
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You're real close !! IF you have 12v at the purge valve and change-over valve, but not at the ICS the issue has to be between the ICS and splice #9.
I don't remember exactly where splice #9 is but I think it is behind the A/C compressor..surely it will be between there and the x59 connector...
I would not drop the engine, but that is just me...
I don't remember exactly where splice #9 is but I think it is behind the A/C compressor..surely it will be between there and the x59 connector...
I would not drop the engine, but that is just me...
#51
I find it strange to read 5.6V. I would have expected either ground/0V when the charcoal Canister was being purged (I.e. valve activated) when the measurement was taken or not give a reading, when the valve was not being activated.
#52
Or am I missing something?
Good job on measuring all terminals and documenting it nonetheless!
#53
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I find it strange to read 5.6V. I would have expected either ground/0V when the charcoal Canister was being purged (I.e. valve activated) when the measurement was taken or not give a reading, when the valve was not being activated as then that pin would not be pulled to ground through the ECU.
Or am I missing something?
Good job on measuring all terminals and documenting it nonetheless!
Or am I missing something?
Good job on measuring all terminals and documenting it nonetheless!
You have a 12v power wire and a control wire,.... when testing the plug if you have a "true ground/0v" on the control wire, when you plug in the connector the valve will actuate.........to deactivate.. the DME must undo the true ground,.. that leaves a floating ground or floating voltage that has no real potential/amperage capabilities..hence it can read just about any voltage but has no potential to do work/amperage, some transistors can pull to ground very well but can have residual floating voltage that causes no harm but can be very misleading if you don't test for amperage
Last edited by Porschetech3; 09-04-2023 at 12:08 AM.
#54
Think about it like this::::
You have a 12v power wire and a control wire,.... when testing the plug if you have a "true ground/0v" on the control wire, when you plug in the connector the valve will actuate.........to deactivate.. the DME must undo the true ground,.. that leaves a floating ground or floating voltage that has no real potential/amperage capabilities..hence it can read just about any voltage but has no potential to do work/amperage, some transistors can pull to ground very well but can have residual floating voltage that causes no harm but can be very misleading if you don't test for amperage
You have a 12v power wire and a control wire,.... when testing the plug if you have a "true ground/0v" on the control wire, when you plug in the connector the valve will actuate.........to deactivate.. the DME must undo the true ground,.. that leaves a floating ground or floating voltage that has no real potential/amperage capabilities..hence it can read just about any voltage but has no potential to do work/amperage, some transistors can pull to ground very well but can have residual floating voltage that causes no harm but can be very misleading if you don't test for amperage
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Strange finding
I have checked the fuel injectors now, 12.x volts. It seems I have correct power on everything I've checked.
Today I've been checking the fuse box for about the third time, seems good on all fuses involved in engine management but I found one strange issue.
On Fuse C3 going to the Alarm Module, I can reach ground on the feed side (Top). These two RE/BR wire supply power to the module.
I have battery voltage on the supply side of C3 (Bottom). Also, The module seems to be working fine. Also interior lighting which goes out when the fuse is pulled.
I would think if it was shorted to ground that the fuse would blow instantly?
Today I've been checking the fuse box for about the third time, seems good on all fuses involved in engine management but I found one strange issue.
On Fuse C3 going to the Alarm Module, I can reach ground on the feed side (Top). These two RE/BR wire supply power to the module.
I have battery voltage on the supply side of C3 (Bottom). Also, The module seems to be working fine. Also interior lighting which goes out when the fuse is pulled.
I would think if it was shorted to ground that the fuse would blow instantly?
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Something else I thought of is that the Airbag control module has been swapped with same part# from a donor. I've seen posts saying it was swapped and worked fine and others saying it has to be reset / married to the car. Would that cause the DME to not let it start, or just throw a warning? Original got wet, wasn't seen by Durametric, new one is seen & error free according to Durametric.
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Not 100% but u have never seen an abs modual interfere with starting.
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But I don't know if that is a function handled by the Airbag module. Also you would think Durametric would show an error with the module.