wildbilly32

Naw...nobody would do that...never...not at all.

BTW are you interested in a slightly used P-car that spent most of it's time beginning in early August 2017 in Houston. Cheap...

Dr_Strangelove

WHAT IS THAT SMELL?


Sorry I've got pet.... crabs.

Icelia

Looking at the photos of that ship I would be very surprised if there is anything salvageable there. the exterior panels of the ship are showing heat damage, and those plates are a good inch thick. the inside of that ship got very very very hot for a long time.
anything above a deck that burned is roasted, only if there is a deck below the fire that it didn't penetrate would have anything maybe salvageable, and given the loading system for those ships (roll on roll off) the lower decks would be less likely to have cars on them in my opinion. Anything above that fire-line is scrap metal in my opinion.

GC996

Does this mean that EV isn't environmentally friendly? 😊

Icelia

The ones on that ship definitely weren't.

GC996

Any electrical engineers out there that can give a simple definition on what "Jules" are?

Icelia

Joule is a measure of energy, equal to a Watt (though with a time value added)

The simplest conversion that would make sense to someone who is mechanically inclined is that 1 Joule is equal to 0.7377 foot-pounds of torque.

Edit: I found this better written explanation on Google:

Watts are defined as 1 Watt = 1 Joule per second (1W = 1 J/s) which means that 1 kW = 1000 J/s. A Watt is the amount of energy (in Joules) that an electrical device (such as a light) is burning per second that it’s running. So a 60W bulb is burning 60 Joules of energy every second you have it turned on.

GC996

Icelia,

Thanks for the definition. How do Joules translate into production cars from a power and safety standpoint. I remember that in the early Audi and Porsche hybrid LeMan era a few years ago, there was talk of who had more Joules and the risk factor of working on the cars. And Porsche having the highest "Joules" with their 919.

theprf

Everything on that ship is going to be scrap - including the ship at this point. It's probably about even odds the ship sinks before the fire is out. Otherwise it will get towed to somewhere in the far East and broken up for scrap.

Icelia

Think of Joules again as available instantaneous torque. Good for winning races.
Also think of Joules as potential 'instant death'.. Good for killing mechanics.
High performance EV or Hybrid cars need to ramp up the voltage to deliver all that power so quickly and still not need 2" diameter cables to do it. So, they have a lot of energy that can cause a lot of damage very quickly.

If that energy goes to the wrong place, like a human body; or even to other parts of the car that aren't correctly grounded etc. you have serious problems.

GC996

Thanks Icelia. Good info. Be interesting when we find out the cause of the fire. There will most certainly be some repercussions.

wildbilly32

At low tide by barefooted 10 year old kids in shorts and tee shirts wielding torches...

168glhs1986

Probably $500,000,000 worth of cars in that boat. I think Motorsport cars are flown? Anyone know this?

wildbilly32

Quote:

Fire dies down on ship carrying luxury cars, with little left to burn

Ouch!

GC996

Carbon fiber goes up in flames fast.