Bore scoring on 996 ?
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We've seen several instances where an injector is sent out for cleaning and testing pass and then fail several thousand miles later. Injectors cannot be rebuilt, only cleaned. Internal wear that can cause injectors to leak, for example, can't be fixed. A well known Porsche shop owner and PCA Tech Committee member had a factory replacement shortblock score after a few thousand miles. He had the injectors cleaned and tested. It ended up scoring the same cylinder that had previously failed. Injector was to blame. This is just one case but we've seen this time and time again.
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Originally when the RND program was developed for SSF, it was planned that an install kit would have to be purchased for there to be a warranty, but that never happened. What was supplied with each engine was determined by SSF. There are plenty of other items that also need to be replaced that are not included like flywheel, clutch, flywheel bolts that isn't traditionally part of a longblock. The reason why the AOS was eventually added to what was included was because shops were using non-genuine ones that were failiing; same with the oil filler tube and even the oil cooler itself after SSF had shops again reuse these items and cause damage to the rebuilt engine.
However, injectors have always been recommended as part of the RND installation directive but the reason we don't include them is that shops want to source them and sell them to the customer directly, so we let shops handle purchasing these parts and other components required for installation.
Since all RND Engines come standard with an IMS Solution, they would have the spin on oil filter adapter and spin on filter.
However, injectors have always been recommended as part of the RND installation directive but the reason we don't include them is that shops want to source them and sell them to the customer directly, so we let shops handle purchasing these parts and other components required for installation.
Since all RND Engines come standard with an IMS Solution, they would have the spin on oil filter adapter and spin on filter.
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In Part 1 of the webinar the expects seemed to be in agreement that they can't really be cleaned/refurbished and should be replaced, period!
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Can you test injectors without pulling them out of car?
Who do you know if you have leaky injectors?
Who do you know if you have leaky injectors?
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Here are some technical videos we just released earlier this week on fuel trim, vacuum leaks, and injectors, among other topics presented by Tony Callas (Callas-Rennsport):
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...u8OfQkDW2RmFSH
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...u8OfQkDW2RmFSH
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Thanks for answering, Charles. That definitely makes sense. I'd say that flywheel, clutch and bolts don't really play a role in whether bore scoring happens or not, however, injectors do. Per Pelican Parts they are either $33.75/injector for Bosh OEM or $306.37/injector for Porsche ones. Not sure what's the deal there price wise as Bosh is the OEM supplier and the part numbers seem to be exactly the same between the two.
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One has to be very wary of imitation fuel injectors these days. There are more knockoff garbage ones than good ones and it is very difficult to tell the difference, boxes are the same and markings are almost exact. $33 sounds about right, and $300 is thievery. Definitely buy from a reputable dealer for the best luck.
The problem we have right now is that there are no injectors anywhere to be had. We've had them on order for a while now and are expecting them in mid Feb. Sadly right now all that is available are the injectors from Porsche which are the same, but just in a Porsche box. That's why they are $300 ea.
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My source for pricing and most parts is Pelican Parts so hope they are considered reputable enough. I'm definitely in agreement about shady distributors. With so many companies moving production to China I'm curious where the shortcomings would be? If Bosh has a factory in Germany and in China is it fair to assume that injectors produced in their factory in China are junk as compared to those in Germany?