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Ok, so it's just a marketing thing? But the GT1 is tube framed, not based on the 996. And it's mid-engine, perhaps it has more in common with the Boxster than the 996? A better example of 911 based Le Mans winner is the 935 which is the 911 chassis and engine of that era.
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Porsche never won LeMans in the 935, Kremer did. Porsche’s only 911 Type victory at LeMans was in the 1998 996 GT1.
Name and Type of any Porsche is a “marketing thing”. That’s how they sell cars. They invent a meaningless name (“Taycan Turbo” for example) assign it to a car, then mass produce and sell it.
Name and Type of any Porsche is a “marketing thing”. That’s how they sell cars. They invent a meaningless name (“Taycan Turbo” for example) assign it to a car, then mass produce and sell it.
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Yes, the 996 GT1 used the exact same engine case number and water cooled head design as the 996 Turbo, 996 GT-3, & 996 GT-2. In fact, very few parts differentiate all four Type 996 Mezger engine variants (GT1/2/3 & TT). That’s what makes them all so much more fun (and valuable) than the “Boxster” 
PS if you’re really looking for Type 996 family resemblances, the 996 GT1 Evo Strassensversion uses the exact same headlight and tail light part numbers as the 996 Carrera. The Finland made “Boxster” actually uses neither, contrary to what you may have read in Road & Track 🤣.
PS if you’re really looking for Type 996 family resemblances, the 996 GT1 Evo Strassensversion uses the exact same headlight and tail light part numbers as the 996 Carrera. The Finland made “Boxster” actually uses neither, contrary to what you may have read in Road & Track 🤣.
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I don't understand the fascination with exterior color and it's oversized impact on selling price. I would take a better performing car in any color over something less just because its a one off color, etc. Once in the driver's seat the color is irrelevant. Just my $.02
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Thats because you're a driver. Collector cars are rarely driven. And always stared at. Color is almost everything.
I don't understand the fascination with exterior color and it's oversized impact on selling price. I would take a better performing car in any color over something less just because its a one off color, etc. Once in the driver's seat the color is irrelevant. Just my $.02
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I don't understand the fascination with exterior color and it's oversized impact on selling price. I would take a better performing car in any color over something less just because its a one off color, etc. Once in the driver's seat the color is irrelevant. Just my $.02
I wanted Guards Red the most, but wouldn't have passed up any shade of blue or black even if the right aero popped up during the search.
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I think age is a factor too. Generally speaking, the older the owner, the less inclination there is to track, and more towards Pebble Beach, Amelia Island, etc. 😎
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I would be shocked if anyone would buy a base 996 because of the 1% relationship to the car that won Lemans. It's such a stretch it's ridiculous. It's like watching NASCAR and the racecars saying Fusion on them.
Now I don't really follow racing but I could see value in the 996 Gt3 winning the Lemans Series I believe someone mentioned above. At least they look alike. The GT1 looks like a prototype. Nobody goes wow that 996 is kicking butt.
As far as the 996 going up, everything has. I'm no economist but I see it every time I go out to eat, get gas, buy groceries or look at house prices. I don't think a great awaking has occurred.
Now I don't really follow racing but I could see value in the 996 Gt3 winning the Lemans Series I believe someone mentioned above. At least they look alike. The GT1 looks like a prototype. Nobody goes wow that 996 is kicking butt.
As far as the 996 going up, everything has. I'm no economist but I see it every time I go out to eat, get gas, buy groceries or look at house prices. I don't think a great awaking has occurred.
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Um, this is why Porsche participates in Motorsports to begin with: marketing. And NASCAR marketing is one of the largest, most profitable advertising venues on the planet. Literally tens of billions of dollars per year are spent by manufacturers associating themselves with NASCAR victories.
Porsche brilliantly timed the 996 Carrera release in Europe to coincide almost perfectly with their 996 LeMans victory that same year.
To discount that effect on sales is ludicrous, as the 996 was the best selling 911 in history literally from that halcyonic launch date.
To Ferry, finally winning LeMans in a Factory 911 Type meant everything, and he almost lived just long enough to actually see it.
Porsche brilliantly timed the 996 Carrera release in Europe to coincide almost perfectly with their 996 LeMans victory that same year.
To discount that effect on sales is ludicrous, as the 996 was the best selling 911 in history literally from that halcyonic launch date.
To Ferry, finally winning LeMans in a Factory 911 Type meant everything, and he almost lived just long enough to actually see it.
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I don't understand the fascination with exterior color and it's oversized impact on selling price. I would take a better performing car in any color over something less just because its a one off color, etc. Once in the driver's seat the color is irrelevant. Just my $.02
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I don't understand the fascination with exterior color and it's oversized impact on selling price. I would take a better performing car in any color over something less just because its a one off color, etc. Once in the driver's seat the color is irrelevant. Just my $.02
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Would a professional wrap in a special color ever entice you or would knowing its not real paint spoil the experience?
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I assume as technology changes wraps will eventually get to the point of doing no harm, provide protection against rocks etc, be totally self healing, and even be indistinguishable from paint.
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