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From Speedway Motors $7363: Hoovey did the swap on the cheap. It is much more expensive than his numbers. 808 has recently shopped a professional conversion I just don't remember the numbers.
Chevrolet Performance 19369326 LS3 6.2 LS Crate Engine, 430 HP
LS3 Chevy LS V8, 376 cu. in. Engine Displacement, Deluxe Crate Engine Crate Engine Type
Chevrolet Performance Parts estimates this item will ship on or before May 15th.
Part # 35519369326
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Last edited by wildbilly32; 05-07-2019 at 10:59 AM.
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Very interesting to see and thanks to the OP for all the work, and to experts chiming in. I hope it helps and finds whoever needs guidance if they ever are on this road. (not a rebuild situation, but My own experience with FSI was simply Awesome)
I would also point out that another youtuber bought Hoovie's 996 and took apart the LS3 and found oil starvation was the cause of the blowup. Apparently it was because the engine was mounted backwards and the baffling in the oil pan wasn't designed for that or something? I would assume there is a fix? Considering there have been quite a few LS swaps, no reason to believe that Hoovie's experience is the norm.
Unless you do the work yourself, I would not expect rebuilding the engine will result in an increase of the value of the car to offset the rebuild costs. That's why cars with broken engines sell for next to nothing.
We deal with this issue on a daily basis. It's a big ticket item to properly rebuild a Porsche engine. What I tell people is this - "How much would you have to spend to get an equal amount of enjoyment out of a new Porsche." Usually, if you look at it from that angle, a $20-30k investment is cheaper than writing the car off and buying a Porsche. Some wear Porsche off forever where for others, their car is so tired and wore out, that it doesn't make sense to fix it. We are there for a disproportionately small number of owners who have a car worth fixing and see the value in doing so.
As far as the original block is concerned, Porsche didn't track engine numbers in production records or that information isn't available to us, so there isn't really any loss in value if the car doesn't have the original engine case.
This. I figure if my motor blows up, I get a rebuild (better, faster, stronger) and I now have a $50-60k really healthy sports/GT car.
My coffee buddy wanted to sell me his ‘12 C2S for $60k. For me, whether it’s a 996 or 997, matters not. A rebuilt motor will tip in favor of the 996.
YMMV
TC
Last edited by AA717driver; 05-07-2019 at 01:09 PM.
As far as the original block is concerned, Porsche didn't track engine numbers in production records or that information isn't available to us, so there isn't really any loss in value if the car doesn't have the original engine case.
Does this mean that Porsche doesn’t include engine serial numbers on a Certificate of Authenticity for 996s? If I remember correctly, I think my 928’s CoA includes engine and transmission numbers but that’s from a different era in Porsche.
Does this mean that Porsche doesn’t include engine serial numbers on a Certificate of Authenticity for 996s? If I remember correctly, I think my 928’s CoA includes engine and transmission numbers but that’s from a different era in Porsche.
The COA for 996 does include the engine and transmission serial numbers..
The COA for 996 does include the engine and transmission serial numbers..
I'd like to see one as I've been told by multiple people in the know that they don't include those details. I'll happily accept being wrong because it really should be provided. Even so, so many engines were replaced at the dealer and is very common with the 986, 996, and later models, that I don't see that affecting value at all.
Correct. We just do stock rebuilds that are fully improved with Nickies, IMS Solution, ARP hardware, etc. for those who want a bulletproof stock replacement engine.
Doesn't really address all the failure modes though, does it?
Doesn't really address all the failure modes though, does it?
For a street car I would say it covers the major points with ARP rod and carrier bolts, chromoly oil pump drive, Nickies, new coated JE Pistons, and IMS Solution.
The RND rebuild is not intended to replace a race prepared engine with CP or Mahle Motorsports pistons, billet rods, billet tensioner paddle, Total Seal rings, coated bearings, 2 quart deep sump, etc. For that someone would go to Flat 6 Innovations for a Track Performer to get those benefits and the ability to also have ported heads and other proprietary performance modifications.
I'd like to see one as I've been told by multiple people in the know that they don't include those details. I'll happily accept being wrong because it really should be provided. Even so, so many engines were replaced at the dealer and is very common with the 986, 996, and later models, that I don't see that affecting value at all.
Here is one, not very often I have a chance to correct you.. BTW I don't know if they update the info when a factory replacement engine is installed, they do receive the old and new engine numbers when the replacement is done, and are insistent on them before they pay the warranty claim, but have not ever followed up on whether or not they change the engine number, I'm guessing they don't !!
Perhaps there has been a change or its handled differently in the US vs UK, but here is one I ordered for my 2010 several years back, which does not provide engine or transmission numbers.
Perhaps there has been a change or its handled differently in the US vs UK, but here is one I ordered for my 2010 several years back, which does not provide engine or transmission numbers.
That's interesting, definitely has been a change. That now makes me wonder about the IPAS information, the dealership lead tech or service manager has the authorization to get the IPAS info, which has the complete build log, in-service dates information along with engine and transmission numbers, all programming codes, and all software numbers ect.. Much much more information than a COA (but without the official signature). I'm wondering what all has changed on that front since I retired. I may have to give one of my old buddies a call.
mine doesn't have number listed either just type M96
Though my older Boxster 986S did, I just need to find the image. And the COA came with the Car after delivery.
I also got a cool Block of Aluminum with Crest and VIN Number engraved.
Stuff like that was pretty cool to get once you bought a new one.
05-07-2019, 10:57 AM
. BTW I don't know if they update the info when a factory replacement engine is installed, they do receive the old and new engine numbers when the replacement is done, and are insistent on them before they pay the warranty claim, but have not ever followed up on whether or not they change the engine number, I'm guessing they don't !!
