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Old 10-23-2017, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL
If I didn't have a highly-sought-after, collectible '99, I'd think about this.
Want to think about it some more? Add that supercharger and let your 996 sit in the garage for 10 years. Obviously can't drive it, but some dumb ****** will turn that $80k profit into $130k profit once 996 values take off.


Mark my words.
Old 10-23-2017, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HawkFan#12
Here you go, give it a shot and let us know how it goes:

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/...352837658.html
Good price!
Old 10-23-2017, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Waterloo
Before I got my 996 I remember seeing a car locally that had one that was for sale....I have to say it looks like a pretty well done kit. I don't think it's going to cause the IMS bearing to carry any extra load, I don't see how it could really add to the normal modes of failure, heck, you would just get through the corners at tracks faster with less oil starvation!!!
Oh it will, adding boost will increase the cylinder pressures, adding more piston skirt side loading.
It will also heat the pistons up more, and probably increase shear stresses on the oil film between the piston and bore.

Don't forget higher temps on the valves in the head, so more likely to crack and intermix.

The added thermal loading will stress out everything else including the cooling system.

There is a video on youtube of a blown m96 in an older 911 body with 1000hp, but it doesn't say how long it lasted....
Old 10-23-2017, 09:14 PM
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These motors are pretty fragile in stock form, I can't imagine modding one. Just watch the forum for a month...
Old 10-23-2017, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbojamie
These motors are pretty fragile in stock form, I can't imagine modding one. Just watch the forum for a month...
Isn't the 4s the same engine as the turbo 996 minus the turbo?
Old 10-23-2017, 09:29 PM
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every post ends up with the same remarks yet i cant find a single that has had an issue

there are quite a few gyts on 6speedonline that have them and positive things to say about them
Old 10-23-2017, 09:37 PM
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I saw that flat 6 innovations didn't recommend it on stock engines and definitely wouldn't want to take the risk. I just figured if the 4s engine is the same as the turbo then in theory it should be safe for a turbo or supercharger. (But I'm a newbie to the porsche world..)
Old 10-23-2017, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ICONchad
Isn't the 4s the same engine as the turbo 996 minus the turbo?
No - C4S has the same upgraded brakes, suspension & widebody. C4S engine is the same as the Carrera. Turbo engines are split case Mezgers, very different engines hombre.
Old 10-24-2017, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyTwoBags
Are they glass, or does the platform just let you run them to the death? The biggest factor I see in blown motors is owners trying to make them something they're not (ex. relying on OEM IMSb, tracking all day & running them too hot for too long, etc.). The stories of regular use-inspired issues like Cuda's motor seem relatively rare.
To be fair, ALL of my motor failures have been due to very aggressive use of the cars. I didn't buy them to drive them like Camrys.

A good friend of mine has a supercharged 996. He has had nothing but problems with it, for years. He told me over $50 k in expenses. He never drives it any more.

A friend of mine just blew the motor in his Cayman GT4, tracking it after chipping it. These modern Porsche motors don't seem to like much more than OEM power for aggressive use. That's my experience, anyway.
Old 10-24-2017, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ICONchad
Isn't the 4s the same engine as the turbo 996 minus the turbo?
completely different animals.
Old 10-24-2017, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuda911
To be fair, ALL of my motor failures have been due to very aggressive use of the cars. I didn't buy them to drive them like Camrys.

A good friend of mine has a supercharged 996. He has had nothing but problems with it, for years. He told me over $50 k in expenses. He never drives it any more.

A friend of mine just blew the motor in his Cayman GT4, tracking it after chipping it. These modern Porsche motors don't seem to like much more than OEM power for aggressive use. That's my experience, anyway.
mind posting what problems he is having?
Old 10-24-2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuda911
A friend of mine just blew the motor in his Cayman GT4, tracking it after chipping it. These modern Porsche motors don't seem to like much more than OEM power for aggressive use. That's my experience, anyway.
Noted on yours, thanks. Wowsa on the GT4. There's a lot to be said for finding peace with having a cool street car & leaving it at that! GL with your boxser btw.
Old 10-24-2017, 12:15 PM
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Yeah, I've heard the gt4 is having issues. So much so that the local dealer here is actually checking your social media to see if you hit the tracks with it and once they find out, deny the warranty.
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Imagine tracking a GT4. What were people thinking?
Old 10-24-2017, 12:32 PM
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wow - that explains why so many are being turned over. One dealer's note in the classifieds said "of the 20 GT4s we've sold this season..." If one dealer is turning over that many in a short timeframe, it begs a question of why so many original owners are dropping them.


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