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Old 08-17-2017, 02:55 PM
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Doug, congrats! Awesome.
Old 08-17-2017, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dharn55
I got mi e yeas ago on Amazon or eBay, I forget which. Simple plastic, they came with glue, but do yourself a favor and use just tabs of clear silicone caulk, will will hold and is easy to clean up. If you get the glue on the instrument faces it never comes off. Look on eBay now, search Porsche 996 instrument trim rings and there are sets for sale for less than $40.
Thanks! I'll check that out.
Old 08-17-2017, 03:15 PM
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Thanks for pioneering this fix and sharing it with the forum. That post is THE reference for cracked head resolution.
Old 08-17-2017, 03:16 PM
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Yup, great to see your car is still running fine!
Old 08-17-2017, 03:39 PM
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Note to self:
1. find car with "blown engine" intermix
2. buy for cheap
3. fix for cheap
4. drive happily!
Old 08-17-2017, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyGS
Thank you for sharing a positive 996 repair story! Kudos for you for seeing the project through yourself, the good old fashioned American way.

Old 08-17-2017, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ejdoherty911
LOVE this story. So many many people on this forum fixing things that are not broken and worrying day and night about oil, smoke, rattles, mice, ghosts, goats, and Game of Thrones . It's a machine, that's it. It can break and it can be repaired. Not every mechanical problem requires a complete engine replacement (some do). And it is always nice to see proof of that fact.
Agree. I've seen so many machines "in their last leg" that just continue hopping around and won't die that I no longer try to anticipate the death of a machine unless it's obvious (no oil pressure). Of course, there's also a phrase "nothing is so obvious that it's obvious."

Kind of makes you wonder when someone who looks young and healthy just suddenly dies, versus an old fart who's in their 80's looks like they could croak at any minute, and then just continues on for another decade or two.

Lastly, the reason why anything is expensive, in the end, comes down to time. Someone could in fact build their own parts if they had enough time. For those with more time than money, like myself, having a Porsche can be affordable.
Old 08-17-2017, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Coopduc
Note to self:
1. find car with "blown engine" intermix
2. buy for cheap
3. fix for cheap
4. drive happily!
Lest not forget about Hoovie's purchase of a 996 for $9,500 or his purchase of a CTS for $6000!
Old 08-17-2017, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dharn55
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On a road trip yesterday my odometer turned over 90,000 miles. While many have far more miles this was a big yardstick for me. Some of you many remember that in 2008 at about 48,000 mile my engine had a major intermix with the coolant like vanilla pudding and the oil like a chocolate shake. At the time th dealer where I bought the car and my indie all said the only fix was a new/remanufactured engine. I even spoke to Jake Ruby, and at that time he also agreed that replacing the ngine was required. All said tha with the coolant I the oil the bearings would be damaged. Etc. And the cost of a remanufactured engine back then was $8,000 to $10,000 from Porsche.

Changed the oil and coolant and parked the car until the next spring when I dropped the engine in my driveway and started to take the engine apart. Soon found a crack in the 1-3 cylinder head. At that time most thought you could not fix these heads. Tried to find a used head, but all I found were also cracked, and in the same spot, looked at a new head, which was $3,000, and then found a machine shop in CA that had fixed many of the heads. $500 plus shipping to fix the crack and do a valve job.

Put it back together, did some other work and parts replacement and put it back on the road. So now 90,000 miles, with the same bearings, hoses, etc. and it is running fine! But I do have an oil leak and need to reseal one of the cam covers, which is a real pain, so one of these days.

In any case I am happy and celebrating 90,000 and looking forward to the next 90,000!😄
The ethylene glycol / bearing damage theory is well known and has been around for decades. The glycol turns acidic and attacks the lead/tin outer thin layer of the bearing turning it dark in color, and pitting. Porsche m96 engines do NOT used lead in the outer layer, they are bimetal material with steel backing and an aluminum hard surface. The m96 crankshaft is hardcoated (nitrated) and requires a hard bearing shell. This bimetal material is more reluctant to acid damage than the lead/tin layer of the trimetal bearings. Although the acid can cause pitting of the crankshaft its self, they key is to get rid of the oil quickly as was done in the above example. Another frugal tip of getting through the intermix economically is to drain and clean the cooling system and use a fe

w gallons of brake cleaner to absorb the oil that will have soaked into the rubber hoses. I bought a car that had intermix about 7 years ago and after 70k miles and 7 years the hoses are still pliable, but not spongy or brittle. Congradulations of a successful and frugal repair !!
Pictured is a rod bearing from a friend of mines 1999 996 3.4 that had suffered a intermix from a cracked head, he also had scoring on #6 cylinder and opted for a 3.8 rebuild, bearings looked ok.
Old 08-17-2017, 09:54 PM
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Great story, and you profile pic is the perfect accompaniment.
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So good to hear!
Old 08-18-2017, 10:42 AM
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Hurray and congratulations on the mile marker with the motor. That is awesome and refreshing to hear hope it continues going strong and thank you for your multiple contributions. Which have help me in various occasions, now keep driving the hell out of that beast and rolling more miles on the odometer.
Old 08-18-2017, 10:59 AM
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Happy 90K Anniversary!!!! Here's to many more!
Old 08-18-2017, 12:42 PM
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Jake Ruby only shoots telephone installers.
Old 08-18-2017, 01:41 PM
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Nice to see you still are driving your 996 cab Doug. Not too many Rennlisters from those days still posting.



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