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Old 10-21-2009, 09:59 PM
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Default Holy crap! Yeah, I needed new tires!!!

So went to take off rear wheels and was surprised at the passenger side rear tire. It was worn down to the cords and the metal mesh showing thru! Scary. Since my car is lowered quite low I could not appreciate the inner tire when I stooped down to look.

For those of you with non-track setups, what is the character of tire wear in the rear? Mine wore down to the metal and still had maybe 3mm on the outside. Think I have too much camber for non-track car or is this appropriate wear pattern??


thanks, and looking forward to your answer.
Old 10-21-2009, 10:21 PM
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Same thing happened to me. I actually flatted out as a result. Luckily I was driving slow in a residential area. A professional wheel alignment at a shop specializing in Porsches solved the problem.
Old 10-22-2009, 11:25 AM
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Thanks. Now I'm thinking maybe I have RS alignment. Had her aligned at Ruf in Dallas when I lived in San Antone. I think that may be the issue.

Well, looks like i'm gonna need new wheels. One of my Gemballa wheels has a crack. On to wheel shopping now :-)
Old 10-22-2009, 03:01 PM
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Jamie,

I was also surprised that I was down to cord on both rear inners when I took the wheels off. I use a very conservative alignment for street driving. So... all that moolah you saved on tires will go for wheels. Dang... its always something. Sorry... those Gemballa wheels look nice.
Old 10-22-2009, 07:49 PM
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Thanks, Steve. Now hunting down some Speedline Alliseo's.
Old 10-22-2009, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ttAmerica RoadsterAWD
Thanks, Steve. Now hunting down some Speedline Alliseo's.
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:07 PM
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Thanks, canysmc! I'm gonna see if those et's will look ok on my car.
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How much negative camber are you running the rear? That's a major contributor to inside tire wear; very common on 911s, which all have a decent amount of rear camber stock.
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Hi pstoppani, I don't recall what Ruf set them at, but they are both wearing with similar pattern. Maybe i'll dial out less camber while in Cali....
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Camber has very little effect on tire wear, bad kinematic toe will do it every time. Find a good Porsche qualified alignment guy.
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Kinematic toe. I thought this was adjustable on the 993 and newer cars? Am I wrong??

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It is adjustable, but takes a knowledgable guy with the right equipment to do it correctly. I went through a lot of tires before I found someone. They'll all say they can do it, but few can.
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Originally Posted by 911/Q45
Camber has very little effect on tire wear, bad kinematic toe will do it every time. Find a good Porsche qualified alignment guy.
While I completely agree that incorrect toe will have a much greater effect on tire wear than too much camber, I respectfully disagree with the statement that "camber has very little effect on tire wear".

The two actually go hand in hand because our cars should have some toe in the rear which in combination with high negative camber will definitely cause the insides to wear more than if you have less camber. Also, you can run zero toe in the front and if you have -2 or more camber in the front, you will wear out the insides faster than the outsides.

Anyway, I think we all agree that a proper alignment is a GOOD thing
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Hmm. Makes sense. I don't have 993 rear suspension. I have 964T rear suspension..... so, I don't have kinematic toe?? right?
Old 10-27-2009, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ttAmerica RoadsterAWD
I have 964T rear suspension..... so, I don't have kinematic toe?? right?

Correct. It's a 'feature' of the 993's LSA rear suspension.

I believe.


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