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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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Thanks Rinty,

It broke my heart to see 57W destroyed. Probably being parted out as we speak. Very sad.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 04:05 PM
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Couldn't resist....a photo of my first Bonanza - it was (and still is, thankfully) a 1976 V35B.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mike cap
Couldn't resist....a photo of my first Bonanza - it was (and still is, thankfully) a 1976 V35B.
Some aircraft designs are so "right" in my opinion.
My short list:
V-tail Bonanza
P-51
Grumman G44 Widgeon
Beaver (and almost anything else by DeHaviland)
DC-3
SR-71
Cessna 180-185
Piper Super Cub

Gordo

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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 993/907
Some aircraft designs are so "right" in my opinion.
My short list:
V-tail Bonanza
P-51
Grumman G44 Widgeon
Beaver (and almost anything else by DeHaviland)
DC-3
SR-71
Cessna 180-185

Gordo
I concur with that list.

When I was taking flying lessons, one day I was walking back from the Tomahawk (yes a "Trauma Hawk") across the ramp with my instructor. An older V tail taxied by, probably an S model. It was the sexiest thing I'd ever seen, I turned to my instructor and said, "I don't know what that is but I GOTTA get me one of those someday."

I said the same thing the first time I saw the 993 in the flesh.
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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Mike, I am really sorry to hear about the loss of “Your” plane. I’ve been there several times with cars that I loved on and new owners have simply trashed and it’s painful to look. I can only imagine how much worse it is with a plane.

However, aside from the initial sad news of the damaged (destroyed?) bird, I have got say that I have enjoyed this thread quite a bit. I am VERY new to this, but after many, many years of thinking and dreaming, it’s time to chase my private pilot certificate. My FAA medical exam is already scheduled and I feel confident that I have picked out the training center I want to attend. I investigated that “Sport Pilot” avenue, but that is a tad too restrictive for what I want to accomplish with this endeavor (It only allows for a single passenger and doesn’t allow for any night flying). The eventual goal is to be an owner and I have become quite smitten with the “J” variant of the Mooney. Although, all this talk about the Beech has me reconsidering.

So, if anyone has any advice for someone in my position, I am alllllll ears! Forums that you like? Planes that you like (or dislike)? Training center in Colorado that you recommend?

Again, sorry for your loss Mike, but I appreciate you starting this thread and all the contributions that people have made here. RL is a great place……esp. the 993 forum!
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 993/907
Some aircraft designs are so "right" in my opinion.
My short list:
V-tail Bonanza
P-51
Grumman G44 Widgeon
Beaver (and almost anything else by DeHaviland)
DC-3
SR-71
Cessna 180-185

Gordo
Cirrus?

I'm an inexperienced pilot as compared to many on this forum.. I flew Cessna's and then began flying Cirrus and LOVED the plane. Perhaps just glazed by all the gadgets but it was a Porsche in the air compared to a Ford that was the Cessna I was accustomed to.

Stopped 6yrs ago but want to get back in at some point... Just want to grow my company big enough to warrant the crazy $$ and expense the bitch.
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 993/907
Some aircraft designs are so "right" in my opinion.
My short list:
V-tail Bonanza
P-51
Grumman G44 Widgeon
Beaver (and almost anything else by DeHaviland)
DC-3
SR-71
Cessna 180-185

Gordo
I'd add a PA-18 to that list. One of my absolute favorites.
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems
I'd add a PA-18 to that list. One of my absolute favorites.
Steve, I agree 100%....rookie blunder to miss the Cub!

Regarding the Cirrus, agree it is a neat airplane that takes advantage of new materials and technology.....others will disagree, but don't think I would pull to the side of the road to watch one work the pattern.....but that's just me.

Gordo
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 01:55 PM
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Two more nominations for the "so right" airplanes: (both twins)

E55 Baron, a Bonanza with twice the power, but same good looks and handling.

Cessna 340, best looking twin Cessna of all, but cabin class, pressurization, a great traveling machine.

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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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So, if anyone has any advice for someone in my position, I am alllllll ears! Forums that you like? Planes that you like (or dislike)? Training center in Colorado that you recommend?

Increasingly difficult to find, but if you can hook up with an instructor & aircraft for tailwheel training I think you will be an overall better flier in the long run.
Training is usually in a tricycle (nosewheel) aircraft.....to fly tailwheel requires a special endorsement unless you train from the start in tailwheel....then no endorsement needed for nosewheel.

Lots of forums on various aircraft types, worth paging through Google.

We've referred to Gordon Baxter previously.....find his old articles and books for great stories.

John Deakin has lots of fun articles out there....flying a Hurricane, flying for Air America and so forth.

Gordo
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Strongly agree about tailwheel training, based on what kind of students I've seen.

This really does make someone a better pilot, especially in adverse takeoff & landing conditions.

Find someone with a Taylorcraft for primary training so you learn what adverse yaw is. Such experience makes a better stick and rudder man,...
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mike cap
I concur with that list.

When I was taking flying lessons, one day I was walking back from the Tomahawk (yes a "Trauma Hawk") across the ramp with my instructor. An older V tail taxied by, probably an S model. It was the sexiest thing I'd ever seen, I turned to my instructor and said, "I don't know what that is but I GOTTA get me one of those someday."

I said the same thing the first time I saw the 993 in the flesh.
I said the same thing about the Falcon 50. I've now spent the last 9 years in them.
And the Tomahawk was fun to spin!
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 04:00 PM
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"This really does make someone a better pilot, especially in adverse takeoff & landing conditions."

Some would say they are always adverse with a tailwheel......

Gordo
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 007DT
Cirrus?

I'm an inexperienced pilot as compared to many on this forum.. I flew Cessna's and then began flying Cirrus and LOVED the plane. Perhaps just glazed by all the gadgets but it was a Porsche in the air compared to a Ford that was the Cessna I was accustomed to.

Stopped 6yrs ago but want to get back in at some point... Just want to grow my company big enough to warrant the crazy $$ and expense the bitch.
I own a Cirrus SR22 and I love it but I don't think it is aesthetically as pleasing as a bonanza. I always wanted a Bo but in the end the features, speed and efficiency of the cirrus won out for me.
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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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I'm always talking to my plane. Usually I say things like this;

What's it doing now?
What the F!
Why did it just do that?
Wow, I've never seen it do that before.
Don't worry Mr. Ex-Airbus captain. This is normal for a Maddog.

Right now I have four to choose from. The original dog (dc-9), Maddog (md-88), mighty dog (md-90), and the mini dog (717/md95). The dc-3 was just moved from the hangar for renovations.

Steve, I loved flying a cub too. Especially in the summer with the door open and my foot hanging outside. Someone that looks a lot like me was scud running over dry falls one day. Kinda fun to pretend your the water diving over the edge. The Super Stinson was the best though. I could take that beast anywhere. She was even more fun when the floats were on.


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