OT - For the Pilots at RL
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Mike, I am really sorry to hear about the loss of “Your” plane. I’ve been there several times with cars that I loved on and new owners have simply trashed and it’s painful to look. I can only imagine how much worse it is with a plane.
However, aside from the initial sad news of the damaged (destroyed?) bird, I have got say that I have enjoyed this thread quite a bit. I am VERY new to this, but after many, many years of thinking and dreaming, it’s time to chase my private pilot certificate. My FAA medical exam is already scheduled and I feel confident that I have picked out the training center I want to attend. I investigated that “Sport Pilot” avenue, but that is a tad too restrictive for what I want to accomplish with this endeavor (It only allows for a single passenger and doesn’t allow for any night flying). The eventual goal is to be an owner and I have become quite smitten with the “J” variant of the Mooney. Although, all this talk about the Beech has me reconsidering.
So, if anyone has any advice for someone in my position, I am alllllll ears! Forums that you like? Planes that you like (or dislike)? Training center in Colorado that you recommend?
Again, sorry for your loss Mike, but I appreciate you starting this thread and all the contributions that people have made here. RL is a great place……esp. the 993 forum!
However, aside from the initial sad news of the damaged (destroyed?) bird, I have got say that I have enjoyed this thread quite a bit. I am VERY new to this, but after many, many years of thinking and dreaming, it’s time to chase my private pilot certificate. My FAA medical exam is already scheduled and I feel confident that I have picked out the training center I want to attend. I investigated that “Sport Pilot” avenue, but that is a tad too restrictive for what I want to accomplish with this endeavor (It only allows for a single passenger and doesn’t allow for any night flying). The eventual goal is to be an owner and I have become quite smitten with the “J” variant of the Mooney. Although, all this talk about the Beech has me reconsidering.
So, if anyone has any advice for someone in my position, I am alllllll ears! Forums that you like? Planes that you like (or dislike)? Training center in Colorado that you recommend?
Again, sorry for your loss Mike, but I appreciate you starting this thread and all the contributions that people have made here. RL is a great place……esp. the 993 forum!
So much depends on where you live and the airport and flight training that is there. I was fortunate that we lived for a long time about two miles from an excellent municipal airport and the flight instruction was pretty good. It made it easy for me to stay on track for my PP certificate.
I bought my first airplane (a Beech Sierra B24R) after getting my PP and used this plane for my instrument rating work. If you love flying after some training or getting your PP, don't be shy about buying your own plane. It makes the training and scheduling allot easier.
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BLT,
So much depends on where you live and the airport and flight training that is there. I was fortunate that we lived for a long time about two miles from an excellent municipal airport and the flight instruction was pretty good. It made it easy for me to stay on track for my PP certificate.
I bought my first airplane (a Beech Sierra B24R) after getting my PP and used this plane for my instrument rating work. If you love flying after some training or getting your PP, don't be shy about buying your own plane. It makes the training and scheduling allot easier.
So much depends on where you live and the airport and flight training that is there. I was fortunate that we lived for a long time about two miles from an excellent municipal airport and the flight instruction was pretty good. It made it easy for me to stay on track for my PP certificate.
I bought my first airplane (a Beech Sierra B24R) after getting my PP and used this plane for my instrument rating work. If you love flying after some training or getting your PP, don't be shy about buying your own plane. It makes the training and scheduling allot easier.
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Thousands of hours actually. Oh, and I was an examiner as well... Anyways... I see what ur saying. Still the margins are far more forgiving SEL. u really gotta work at it to pull off what the OP posted.
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According to the video describing landing at Mountain Top, NC, where they crashed 57W, the runway is 2,800 feet long.
The video said there is a sign and markers at the 800' mark that requires a go around if the pilot is not wheels down at this point. The video is very explicit about this. I have never seen this type of warning at any airport. There is no over run at this airport - if you land long you are basically going off sort of a cliff.
I have no idea why the 57W owners didn't go around.
The video said there is a sign and markers at the 800' mark that requires a go around if the pilot is not wheels down at this point. The video is very explicit about this. I have never seen this type of warning at any airport. There is no over run at this airport - if you land long you are basically going off sort of a cliff.
I have no idea why the 57W owners didn't go around.
Last edited by mike cap; Nov 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM.
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You either needed a good headwind to reduce your ground speed and therefore increase the approach angle, even with full flaps and 40 degrees works well in a C150 (there was a good sized hill on final close to the button of the runway) or you performed a final with a good angle to the runway (not a good idea if the crosswind is not favouring the turn while setting up for a very short final).
The point is...just go around till it is just right. You'll live longer. Pilots and their get-home-itis never last. I can count the guys on two hands that I sat around the coffee table with at the club, that are no longer here.
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Opps...another bold, not old pilot!
I'm an old Bellanca pusher. Never loved anything more except my Porsches.
Last owned a 73 Super Viking 300. 3 bladed, 300 Lycoming, gear doors, full panel. What a blast.
doug troyer
I'm an old Bellanca pusher. Never loved anything more except my Porsches.
Last owned a 73 Super Viking 300. 3 bladed, 300 Lycoming, gear doors, full panel. What a blast.
doug troyer
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If you look at the terrain around the airstrip, you would expect wind to swirl from all over the place.
http://s150.photobucket.com/user/aux...unway.jpg.html
http://s150.photobucket.com/user/aux...unway.jpg.html
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Steve, what HAVEN'T you flown!
(I used to hang out with a guy that claimed to have flown something like 85 different types, and he was in his mid 30's at the time......an amazing natural flyer).
Gordo
(I used to hang out with a guy that claimed to have flown something like 85 different types, and he was in his mid 30's at the time......an amazing natural flyer).
Gordo
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