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Old 08-24-2013, 06:38 PM
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Does anyone know anything about this used car dealer?
Old 08-24-2013, 11:36 PM
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Yes. I bought a Mustang from them a month a go and I am happy with the car. They have a shipping only purchase option but for me everything was as they said will be. The car arrived on time and it was as advertised.
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Hi bonkowskem,

So your first post as a new user in response to a post on a Porsche forum, is reporting that you bought a Mustang from this dealer?
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Does it strike anyone as odd that this used car dealer's address is in the Fifth Street Towers, which looks like a very swank, expensive location?

http://www.fifthstreettowers.com/Pro...rtyPhotos.axis

Or that they don't allow any inspections prior to purchase?

Or accept any payment methods other than bank wire transfer?

Or that the source of their selection of fine collectible cars is repos and pawn shops?

Or that they pay return shipping if you don't like the car?

I'm trying to sniff this out a little bit for a friend who is considering this very nice 356 for $21,000, but so far all I smell is fish:

http://www.cbreitner.com/view.php?id=3
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Oh well, it's all clearer now--friend called the dealer and learned why he can't inspect the car--it's already in the container for shipment!
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Hmmm,
Seems like another dead end in the verification trail...I hate when that happens.

Based on the previously posted indicators, a heavy sigh of relief would be in order if the car is actually delivered.
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I think the biggest red flag is that the only payment method allowed is by bank transfer into their trust account. Once you wire the money, it is gone, baby, gone. No way I know of to unwind or recover. They will enjoy your money in the Ukraine.

I hope no one is naive enough to fall for this.
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Originally Posted by bonkowskem
Yes. I bought a Mustang from them a month a go and I am happy with the car. They have a shipping only purchase option but for me everything was as they said will be. The car arrived on time and it was as advertised.
Apparently they do a good job following up on the google alerts they set up for themselves. Seems like they would get tired hanging out all day in that POS crowded and stinky little internet cafe in BFE and never catching any fish.

Here is an alert for you C Breitner Autos - go f#ck yourself.
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Originally Posted by BobbyT
Hi bonkowskem,

So your first post as a new user in response to a post on a Porsche forum, is reporting that you bought a Mustang from this dealer?
Funny stuff!

I'm sure Bonkowskem trolls many, many web forums and swoops in like Batman with his comments to save us. It doesn't matter if the product is a Porsche, a toaster oven, or a nose hair trimmer. Bonkowskem is there to watch over us.
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[Oh, and you can remove the word "possible" from the post title, BobbyT.]
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Originally Posted by bonkowskem
Yes. I bought a Mustang from them a month a go and I am happy with the car. They have a shipping only purchase option but for me everything was as they said will be. The car arrived on time and it was as advertised.
Sure you did, have any pics?
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Originally Posted by BobbyT
Does it strike anyone as odd that this used car dealer's address is in the Fifth Street Towers, which looks like a very swank, expensive location?

http://www.fifthstreettowers.com/Pro...rtyPhotos.axis

Or that they don't allow any inspections prior to purchase?

Or accept any payment methods other than bank wire transfer?

Or that the source of their selection of fine collectible cars is repos and pawn shops?

Or that they pay return shipping if you don't like the car?

I'm trying to sniff this out a little bit for a friend who is considering this very nice 356 for $21,000, but so far all I smell is fish:

http://www.cbreitner.com/view.php?id=3

Call the tower admin group and find out if they have a dealership as a tenant. http://www.fifthstreettowers.com/Con...ementTeam.axis

Or maybe the owner of the dealership lives there.
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Originally Posted by BobbyT
I'm trying to sniff this out a little bit for a friend who is considering this very nice 356 for $21,000, but so far all I smell is fish:

http://www.cbreitner.com/view.php?id=3
Uh, even a T6 Coupe for $21K? Yeah, and next someone will report they have a low-mileage, one-owner 2S with sport seats for $35K.............

Quick Google check shows that VIN listed by a "Beverly Hills Sports Car Club" (or equivalent) that's been spamming Craigslist when I've looked here locally.
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Here's an ad for the same vehicle for $55K http://www.2040cars.com/Porsche/356/...river--401592/
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Another ad for $32,500 http://losangeles-ca.americanlisted...._24375929.html
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Not only bonkowskem first post, according to his profile he joined 08/24/2013 just to help out Bobby T....what a nice guy.


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