race911

And the next day, I'm still looking for my blog. Anyone available to help me find it? I've already looked all around the C4S with the dead battery, and the wannabe RS. Even looked out in the lot around the carcass of the RSA. Next stop, over to where the 964 Targa shell is stored? Doubt it's worthwhile to look around where the three torsion bar cars are.

stickypatch

You could try tweeting with a #whereismyblog hashtag - one of your followers might be able to help?

pirahna

Let me borrow Ruby for a few days, I will make sure the blog is not hidden in her somewhere!

bobboinski

I will let you know if I see it up here in the North Bay. Color?

stickypatch

Ruby's not his wife then, I take it?

(That should get the thread locked...)

race911

Come on up. Oh, the registration expired as I'm not getting it smogged. Other than that, it's still all in one piece.

race911

What's Twitter? (If I were limited to 140 characters, I doubt there would have been the original slam.)

Why, Ruby. It was apparently a paint to sample car, that most resembles Ruby Red from the 356 days.

No, but it was part of a strip club down in the San Diego suburbs, from where I rescued it. Maybe Ed's got a picture handy to post. Got nothing on the shop computer to post. Or go over on the 911 Forum and search for Ruby.

race911

Found one, from when delivery was handed over.

TT Surgeon

It's possible in the NA market I suppose, but I don't see that happening w turbos.I don't see 993tt or 997tt prices dropping anytime soon.
996 cars are s different story, almost any 993 is worth more than a comparable 996.

pp000830

I agree the 997 looks great and harkens back to the great looking 993 look. The 997 is vastly superior in every measure of performance.
I see the difference that will always make a 964 & 993 Desirable is the extremely low cost to own once the car has 80K miles on the clock.
Basically oil, brake pads and the occasional caps & rotors with just the following extraordinary items once in the life of the car;
Struts,
Steering Rack
1st & 2nd gear synchros
Power steering belt & ignition wires
Door check strap repair - maybe
Valve adjuster cartridges
A Clutch
I believe the 997 has a vastly larger set of items that will fail and need repairing and because of the complexity involved there will not be a huge aftermarket supplier network to keep costs down.
I believe this will impact dramatically the out of warranty value of any of the water cooled newer 911
Andy

goofballdeluxe

BIG difference between 993TT and 997TT, depreciation and price wise.

Prices on 997TT have dropped, and will drop more, because of the sheer numbers they made. You can get a nice 997TT for $70K now. That car was double that 5 years ago when new, so they have certainly dropped. They will probably drop even more when the 991TT comes out next year or so.

On the other hand, the 993TT has remained relatively stable, price wise, over the last 5 years, because it's already depreciated out, they made very few of them, and they don't make them any more. None of that you can say about the 997TT, which is why they continue to fall in price. The 997TT is still a great car tho

Mark Harris

Mark,

Obviously you are disappointed with your decision to move from a 993 to a 997. I'm sorry you have not been able to come to terms with your decision; but stop trying to make yourself feel better by continually taking shots at us on the 993 board.

12 of your last 20 posts have been on this board. Maybe it's time to get back into a 993.

jimq

point proven

mjsporsche

Mark,

Interesting point you have raised. I enjoyed my 993 for 8 years. It was terrific. I need to think about it. BTW.... Did you have any other mystique items to add to the list? My comments are not meant to take shots but rather to give a little reality back to the kool-aid drinking crowd who likes to put down all other Porsche products.

I hope you are not suggesting that I am not welcome within the inner sanctum of this forum? I enjoy the playfulness of this juiced up group.

pfbz

Nice 997's can definitely be found in the $30's.

How does this affect 993 prices? Probably not at all. Enthusiasts who want the apogee of air-cooled 911's will continue to keep 993 prices high.

But as reference, I've been hunting for several months for a new (to me) 911 to replace my 911SC and have looked at dozens of cars in person and hundreds online. Excluding anything nasty, salvage titled, that's had significant bodywork or needing any sort of immediate mehanical attention, and assuming you get a good deal but not some extremely lucky bargain, IMHO:

• A $21K budget will get you a 80K MkI 996.
• A $26K budget will get you a minty 55K 2004 C2 (bought one last week)
• A $36K budget will get you a nice, sub 50K mile 2005 or 2006 997 C2.
• A $42K budget will get you a nice lower mileage 996 Turbo.

I think a better question is how many potential p-car buyers would be better served with:

• A $26K low mileage 996 vs. a $26K high mileage 993?
• A $36K mid-mileage 997 vs. a $36K mid mileage 993?
• A $42K low mileage 996 Turbo vs. a $42K low mileage 993?

What 911 would you recommend to your neighbor who is a gearhead but not a dyed-in-the-wool Porsche fanatic?